Sub 4 pound single skin tent…does it exist?

my bad…."single skin"

there are 2 lb free standing single wall tents.
don’t know if they are 87″ long.

example :

MH Direkt 2

my bad…."single skin"

But why? There are double skin tents at less weight…

Single person?

http://www.integraldesigns.com/product_detail.cfm?id=887

As previously posted, MH Direkt 2 and Nemo Quantum Elite at 87×55 & 2#12 spring to mind.

But in what possible set of conditions is equivalently light double-wall “settling for”?

Jerry,
Might help more if you post your height and the size, inc height ,of the mat you use.
Not all 87" long tents have the same usable space but you may also fit inside one with a shorter length but more vertical walls.

Lightheart Gear Solong 100" length hybrid wall. add a few oz for seam seal

http://www.lightheartgear.com/index.php/tents/lightheart-solong6-tents/product/view/7/7

oops.. not freestanding but :shrug:

mainly leaning towards single skin for ease of set up and 4 season ability. I'm not a big fan of mesh/fly

Tarptent, Big Sky, and MSR, etc.

Not a very tough threshold, should have many choices.

Cheers

Two commercial single wall ones are the above mentioned MH Driekt 2 and the BD Firstlight. Both use, more or less, the "bibler" design with 2 crossed poles, are super easy to set up and are TRUE freestanding tents in that you can move them rigidly around fully set up. Just stake them down or you may be fishing one out of a tree.

Both are about 2+ lbs, the latter one you can buy carbon fiber replacement poles that will take a half a lbs off the weigh and get it closer to 2 lbs even. The BD is breathable, but not a tent for heavy extended rain, the MH one is more waterproof, but does not have a zippered screen door. Both are really nice for backpacking, but the design is basically optimized for mountaineering. Both are good choices when heavy condensation is not going to be a huge issue. Both have a ton of headroom and are big enough for 2 sardines, or one as a palace.

On here 4 lbs is what we would call "heavy", even for a double wall tent these days. :-)

"mainly leaning towards single skin for ease of set up and 4 season abilty"

FWIW: I have owned and used a few of both types and did not find single wall tents to have either of those benefits to any significant degree. At least that was my experience with them. Both of those factors seemed to me to be more a function of other design factors than whether it was single or double wall.

The one advantage I found for single wall was lighter weight, but at the cost of a good bit more effort in managing the inevitable condensation inside the tent in any but very dry conditions.

Eureka used to make the Zeus 1 Classic (also called the Zeus Exo) which was 87" in length, single skin self-supporting tent. I believe it weighed right around 3lbs.

Here is one available of ebay – http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eureka-Zeus-EXO-Solo-Tent-Good-condition-SGR1-/111329176583?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ebbc6c07

I have no connection with the ad on Ebay.