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Rab/Integral Designs Element 2/ Element Solo Bug tent

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PostedApr 3, 2014 at 6:54 am

So I have been shopping around extensively for a bug insert with a bathtub floor for use under a flat tarp. I am trying to get into tarp camping and keep everything cheap. My plan is to buy the Rab (formerly integral designs) element 2 or element solo bug shelter. I have a 10×12 Integral designs siltarp 3 that I am using for hammock camping and as my intro to tarp campinng. There are lighter options for bug protection but I still want the space of an inner net tent while I am transitioning to tarp camping.

I am either going to buy the Element 2 Bug tent (~$95 & 30oz.) or the Element solo bug tent (~$65 and 20 oz.) as a cheap intro to tarp camping with a floor and bug protection. My first multiday trip of the season is coming up in two weeks and if I really decide that I like this method of camping I will invest in the Bearpaw wilderness designs net tent that is significantly lighter but also more expensive. Probably a dedicated tarp for solo camping that is smaller.

As always I like to bounce these ideas off of people who know more than I do. Any glaring flaws in my plan here? Do any of you have experience with Rab or Integral design products or either of these net tents in particular? Should I just buy a TarpTent?

PostedApr 3, 2014 at 7:26 am

The low cost is really the idea. I'm afraid that after a weekend I will regret leaving my hammock. Backcountry has the Element 2 bug tent and is offering %20 off so I could take advantage of their excellent return policy. The MLD serenity shelter seems awfully small for the transition. I roam in my sleep so I am hesitant to bivy/bug bivy. I almost bought a used BPWD net tent but it had a cuben floor that I think I would trash and was $200+.

I have also considered some of the inner nets sold for various other tarp shelters. If I decide that this is the way to go I have lots of options for other tarp/net combos for sale out there too. I think for the sub $100 investment this will be a good and affordable way to determine if I am a tarp camper or not. My upcoming hike is not overly demanding ( <25 mi, 2 nights) and seems like a good shakedown. I am also 6'3" and 230lbs so some of the smaller lighter options seem like they would be very constrictive.

I have not slept in a tarp before, I'm hoping that a 10×12 with a net tent would offer enough rain coverage so that I do not need a bivy for my down bag (MH phantom 32 long). Thoughts there?

Robb Watts BPL Member
PostedApr 3, 2014 at 7:54 am

Kyle,

A 10 x 12 tarp should be plenty big enough to protect you from just about anything.
I use a 10 (12?) x 14 and it has kept 4 of us dry in torrential down pours (no wind though). I also have a Phantom 32 and rarely have any weather issues with a tarp (I usually bring a little tiny breathable top bivy – Borah Gear).
Just don't try it with a 5 x 9 tarp in windy wet weather: you can stay dry but you have to pitch the tarp so low to the ground that you can't sit up. I'm a committed tarp camper, I like the extra room, lighter weight and the views.

PostedApr 3, 2014 at 9:00 am

That complicates things. This is a way better product and fits my needs almost perfectly. I am concerned that the bathtub floor isn't quite as robust but I'm going to send an email right now.

Joe S BPL Member
PostedApr 3, 2014 at 9:04 am

With Bearpaw, you can move to a 70d floor if you want to.

PostedApr 3, 2014 at 9:22 am

I'm considering going to the minimalist 2 with silnylon front and rear, shipped for $165.I sent an email asking about delivery. Not sure if the minimalist2 or the net tent2 is the way to go 10×12 square tarp? Both price out roughly the same.

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