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Anton Solovyev BPL Member
PostedApr 1, 2014 at 10:20 am

I looked at the new Osprey Exos 58 last night at a local REI. I use the older model and like it quite a bit.

Here's what I think about the new model:

1. The hip belt seems to be designed to ride higher, more like a waist belt. This does not work for me, too warm, interferes with breathing and bending. The back part of the belt is higher than the front (there's like a 30 degree angle). No good.

2. The free webbing ends used to tighten the belt are now attached to some sort of a sliding loop, so it's impossible to grab them by the end. What idiot came up with that idea?

3. The padding on the straps ends too soon, so the area where I get sore spots which is the front of my shoulders has little padding. In fact, thee's plenty of padding where shoulder straps don't even touch my shoulders. What gives?

4. The "flap jack" thing is very broke. I never use the top lid. There used to be a single top strap which I use to hold the sleeping pad. With the "flap jack" I tried it and it is plain ugly and unusable. Who needs the top lid when pack liner is used anyway?

5. I generally don't like too many bells and whistles, but I actually have come to like the zippered front pockets on the old Exos. Those are gone.

So, all in all, I see little improvement and a lot of downsides. I hope this model is replaced before I need another light inner frame pack.

PostedApr 1, 2014 at 1:28 pm

I was initially impressed with the new EXOS 58 but I'll trek back to REI and re-visit it with this critique in mind.

Guess I need to pack it with sandbags and walk around the store awhile before I decide to buy it.

UPDATE:
So, OK, I went to my local REI, got a size Large EXOS 58 (61 liter capacity) and walked around the store for half an hour with over 30 lbs. loaded into the pack, most weight on the bottom and 10 lbs. wedged close to my back with pillows stuffed inside.

What I found is a VERY comfortable pack.



PROS->

SHOULDER STRAPS: No problem with padding length. Just right once everything was properly adjusted (I'm 5' 10" & 185 lbs.)

WAISTBELT: VERY comfortable compared to all my packs including my Dana Designs Terraplane

LIFT STRAPS: worked as lift straps should and adjusted pack "lean" easily



CONS->

FLAP JACK LID: truly unnecessary. I'll cut it off. It's there for those not wanting to use the lid compartment.

POLE CARRIER LOOPS: again, truly unnecessary and will be removed

STERNUM STRAP: not easily raised or lowered. This needs to be converted to vertical "slider" attatchments at each shoulder strap. Not difficult to mod at home.

TOP LID: nice that it's removable. Not nice that it has no belt loops for use as a fanny pack for day treks away from camp. I'll add belt loops.

CAPTIVE CENTER-PULL WAIST BELT STRAPS: yeah, an odd design. I'll seam rip the webbing end loops, slide the elastic keepers back and re-stitch the webbing end loops with doubled back ends that will catch on the elastic keepers and not easily slip out of them. This makes for end loops that are easier to grab and pull.

SIDE POCKET ATTATCHMENT LOOPS: I'll sew four 1/2" webbing loops on each side so I can easily attatch/detatch side pockets when I want them.



NOTE: Like most quality gear I buy I end up modifying it to suit my own needs and preferences. The EXOS 58 is no exception.

All-in-all a very nice pack with a few quirks that may suit some and not others.

PostedApr 1, 2014 at 1:50 pm

I recently bought the Exos 38, and have the older Exos 46 and 58. I don't really disagree with Anton about anything he said, but will throw in my own perspective.

1. I had the same initial impression. Have to play with it some, as the decreased shoulder strap padding length and increased load lifter height give the new models a different fit, but it does ride higher, regardless. Quite noticeable when going from one pack to the other and comparing how they line up with a horizontal seam or rear pocket on my pants. Whether that's good or bad is subjective, I suppose. I can't say I have a particular preference. It rides more like my Mystery Ranch Dragonslayer and Dana Designs Astralplane OK than my other Osprey packs. Not necessarily a bad thing to me

2. I like not having free-hanging straps. No opinion yet on the single strap vs. double on the old models, but the buckle sure is a huge improvement. I don't think the belt will loosen like the previous ones, either.

3. The padding length isn't a problem for me. Another thing that's not an issue for me unless it's true with a very thin top in summer, but anyone who wears this thing with a tank top or shirtless is probably not going to appreciate that open design that has a collection of holes on the underside of the harness and shoulder straps scrubbing them.

4. Agree on the strap, though I like the flap itself. That was poorly thought out, IMO. Makes the top strap useless for anything except compressing the load at the top of the pack, which the flap will do, anyway. I'm already debating cutting that strap out. A removeable buckle to use with the lid removed, attaching to the centered loop above the harness where the lid does, would have made more sense to me. I don't see hauling climbing rope or other heavy stuff with a pack like this, but don't like them having done away with the ability to lash a shelter, pad, etc. there.

5. Agree wholeheartedly. I bought the 38 because I wanted a 34 that had no zippered pockets there, anyway, but those vertical pockets on the 58 are a big deal to me, and I like the single one on my 46, too. I hope they come back with them, or I'll be shopping for a different model pack when it comes time to replace my old 58.

The frame rides further off the back in the middle, and is more open on the sides. This should give some serious ventilation, but it also intrudes more noticeably into the packbag. In the little 38L version, even a 1L Platypus Hoser wrecks the access to the lower part of the bag, and putting a 2L Hoser in there was a bad kind of funny.
Since the pack works for me, and I don't intend to put anything in the bladder pocket, I'm ok with it, but this will not appeal to anyone who prefers to keep a bladder inside the pack.

I'm actually liking my 38 a lot, but I think the new design is going to exclude some people who have particular ways of doing things, and have a less universal appeal, making the Exos series even more of a niche item than being so fit-specific already had before.

PostedApr 1, 2014 at 3:10 pm

I do.
My Medium came in a hair under the advertised 37oz at 36 3/8oz with lid, and 33oz without it.

Edit: I wonder if they changed the listed weight(?). I originally commented in another thread that it was a hair over, but when I checked Osprey's site, it said 2lb 5oz.

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