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Cocoon UL 60 or Pro 90 Quilt

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PostedAug 1, 2007 at 5:21 pm

I am debating making a purchase of either the Cocoon UL 60 (Cobalt blue) or the Pro 90 (red) Quilt. I have never used a quilt. My lightweight bag at this point is my Feathered Friends (FF) Vireo (full length, non zippered, non hooded sleeping bag) in eVENT with 2 oz of 800+ down overfill that weighs about 22.4 oz. I like the bag very much but it is too warm for this time of the year.

I live in eastern PA and most of my time is spent in the northeast. As a photographer, I will never get my packed weight down to what many of the UL and certainly the SUL backpackers have out there. My lightweight 4 X 5 field camera is a 2 lb 12 oz Toho Shimo FC-45X by itself without the addition of film, lenses, tripod, etc.

I carry my gear in a Custom made panel loading McHale 5000+ cu in 5 1/2 lb main compartment pack. The pack is made of 420 HT nylon and full spectra. I need this size and weight pack with its harness and waist belt system due to the weight of the food, water, and backpacking and photo gear.

I like the idea of being able to drop another 8 to 11 or so ounces from my pack weight if possible. Because of carrying the camera gear, I sleep with the gear inside one of my tents such as my Six Moons Lunar Solo enhanced with the ultra light floor which weighs about 24.9 oz with stakes (not including hiking pole).

I prefer to be less conspicuous when out with my normal color gear being blue, green, gray, or black. I have a full complement of clothing to go with the sleeping bag that I have and would purchase. I presently have the following clothing to work with the sleeping bag/quilt: FF Hyperion Jacket (800+ down), FF Volant Hood, Patagonia Micro Puff pullover (original I believe), Patagonia Micro Puff vest (original I believe), Cocoon UL pants, Cocoon UL 60 Balaclava.

It might be nice to able to have the quilt be used as an over bag for the FF Vireo but, the foot box may not accommodate this.

I would appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks.

Rich

PostedAug 2, 2007 at 2:10 pm

I want to thank Addie Morstad of BPL for helping me make my choice in ordering the Cocoon UL 60 Quilt as the better choice to suite my needs. I will use the Cocoon UL 60 in warmer weather (reducing my pack weight 11 oz when used) with or without required clothing. The FF Vireo will be used in cooler conditions with appropriate clothing.

Rich

John S. BPL Member
PostedAug 2, 2007 at 4:41 pm

What did she say about the footbox when used as an overbag?

Why don't they have packed size listed?

PostedAug 2, 2007 at 4:56 pm

Hi John,

Addie did not think that the Pro 90 Quilt (much less the UL 60) could cover the foot box of my Vireo if the quilt was used as an overbag (the foot box is too tight). The Vireo Foot box would be too high. The Pro 90 is apparently designed to cover the foot box of the UL 60. As a result, I will just rely on the UL 60 for warmer weather. Then switch to the FF Vireo for colder conditions (possibly to about 0 degrees F?? with the proper clothing. Beyond that if I am so inclined I would switch to my FF Lark (with eVENT outer) with 800+ down. That bag is estimated at about 5 degrees F. If I can fit any high loft clothing inside this bag along with my liner and Vapor Barrier clothing, I would guess that I may be able to reach approximately minus 10 or 15 degrees or more F especially on my Stephenson's Warmlite DAM (down air mattress).

Rich

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