Feb 26, 2014 at 1:01 pm #1313791
must breathe good or have mesh pockets or pit zips
I prefer red color for saftey and so other hikers can spot/ follow me easily.
I run cold in general so I want to try one in lieu of my windshirt.Feb 26, 2014 at 1:22 pm #2077418
The rain jacket won't make you any warmer, just wetter inside. 8oz and good good breathability is a tough one. The Marmot Super Mica is 9oz, but has the rest of your specs, including the pit zips. They make a very bight orange color. I see Backcountry.com has a sale.
If you can live without the pit zips, the OR Helium II is spec'd at 6.4oz. They make red and orange. I have more faith in OR products and the warranty is real. Now I want one, durn it :) Maybe the parking lot sale!
Or get a poncho, save $140 and keep your windshirt :)Feb 26, 2014 at 1:39 pm #2077422
@rosyfinchLocale: the mountains
I never backpack with a wind jacket/shirt. If I'm moving I'm usually warm or too warm. When I stop, if the wind is making me chilly I put on my rain jacket. Only if it's REALLY cold and windy (or raining) do I hike with my rain jacket on. I have the Marmot Mica and it's about 7 oz. I liked the rain hood better than the OR. The Mica does not have pit zips, but I never even think about them. And it does make you warmer.
BillyFeb 26, 2014 at 3:07 pm #2077455
REI has the Marmot Essence on sale for $125.
It's the minimalist version of the Marmot Mica. Just one pocket (on the chest). No pit zips, but small mesh openings under the pits. 6 ounces.
They have the blue one. Marmot has made it in red, so you might find it somewhere…Feb 26, 2014 at 3:30 pm #2077461
Thanks for the info guys it puts a smile on my face to get replies so fast.
Like above i'm not going to wear this while hiking much, mostly used when idle and rain obv. Also I want to wear sometimes with my motorcycle in the city.
OR helium, its an option, tried on one and didnt like the fit much but its a top contender still.
Montane minumus- $180, 7.5oz, pertex shield 2.5
Mountain Hardware SUL Plasmic- $199 dry.q.evap 2.5L 8oz
Still looking at more, need to check out westcomb and others?Feb 26, 2014 at 5:56 pm #2077501
I missed the OR Helium HD— haven't seen that before. It's a Helium with more features, like pit zips. Spec'd at 9.1oz, which is pretty close to your goal. Comes in orange. They should make a Helium with the Torsoflow vents.Feb 28, 2014 at 4:27 am #2077959
Charlie MurphyBPL Member
I am an everyday bike commuter that owns a Mica. While it meets all of your requirements it fails in one important one. It cannot handle heavy rains. You will get wet. Light rains, drizzle it is fine but when the heavens open up your shoulders will soak through quickly. I still use it for commuting because it packs small and I am only out in the elements for 1 hour. I would never use it in the back country, NEVER. I also use golite rain pants made w/ paclite. These are excellent. Get paclite, stay warm, stay dry.
This guy makes them(7oz) but I have not used one of his. I wish I had though.
Mica, meh!Feb 28, 2014 at 6:53 am #2077972
have you talked to marmot?
a rain jacket in good condition should not have leakage through the shoulders …
try a shower test to ID where its coming through …
;)Feb 28, 2014 at 7:40 am #2077982
@sschloss1Locale: New England
Get an O2 Rainshield or some DriDucks. Both are more breathable than anything mentioned above. Then take the $170 you save and have a good time with it.Feb 28, 2014 at 9:17 am #2078001
I've been doing quite a bit of browsing ul rain shells and it seems like new models have been stagnant for for the last few months.
Is the quality of the westcomb focus 2.5l event much better than the montane minimus pertex shield +?Feb 28, 2014 at 9:23 am #2078003
I have read several reviews regarding the low hydrostatic Head of the Mica. Not surprised it would leak in heavy, driving rain. This isn't a warranty issue.Feb 28, 2014 at 10:45 am #2078041
The mica is advertised at 20k mm for its membrane strata fabric
This should be enough for "driving rain"
If its not its either a warranty issue, false advertising
As long as the jacket is in good condition of course
;)Feb 28, 2014 at 12:06 pm #2078081
@rosyfinchLocale: the mountains
I have had the leaking shoulder area with my Mica. But it's not so bad that I would not feel good about it for the Sierra. But if I go to the Pacific NW I will take something more leak proof.
Before buying it I read several reviews that indicated the same issue… and that Marmot was refusing to warranty it.
BillyFeb 28, 2014 at 12:33 pm #2078093
Correct Eric. That is what the marketing indicates but clearly it isn't that high. Gortex Pro has a much higher hydrostatic head, FWIW.
So send the jacket back with a warranty claim and get a new one, only to have the same issue again. Unless you have a HH tester at home, how do you get restitution? By buying a different jacket and letting other people know your experience.Feb 28, 2014 at 12:45 pm #2078099
I was looking at a Montbell Versalite yesterday and this thread came to mind. It does fit all your wants (watch the sizing)Feb 28, 2014 at 2:06 pm #2078123
Just want to chime in about the Marmot Mica and say that I have never had any luck with mine. Any real rain and it wets through within a couple minutes, and a few minutes later I am very wet. I have also designated mine to bicycle commuting and a backup in my everyday bag. I purchased mine in 2011 so it may have been improved since then.Feb 28, 2014 at 5:15 pm #2078200
david richardsonBPL Member
I have been using this jacket for 2 years, I find it to be a very good jacket.Feb 28, 2014 at 6:33 pm #2078217
tom laknerBPL Member
Check out Lukesultralight gear.There are some really nice rain jackets available here. Haven't tried any but they look great.Feb 28, 2014 at 7:09 pm #2078228
With this many BPLers having issues with what marmot is clearly advertising as a 20k mm rain jacket … And the warranty issues listed above
Why in the world you someone buy a marmot rain jacket???
With some other brands they just take care of you, period
Same with some retailers
And gore of course has that additional guarantee
;)Mar 1, 2014 at 3:47 pm #2078452
I'm going into bc.com warehouse and hopefully I'll pick something out. Got a climbing trip in 10 days so Looking forward to testing it. Any last minute reccs?Mar 1, 2014 at 4:12 pm #2078458
Stephen MBPL Member
@stephen-mLocale: Way up North
I really like the Outdoor Research Helium, Pertex shield is not the most breathable compared to Event or Neoshell but is very light.Mar 1, 2014 at 7:07 pm #2078505
M GBPL Member
I was asking myself the same question last year and got an OR Helium II on deep discount. Nice fitting jacket. I mostly used it as a wind shirt in cold, windy conditions in the mountains with a very good level of breathability. It wetted out and leaked in the shoulders the first time I used it in sustained heavy rain. I contacted OR and they promptly replaced it. I have not tested in similar conditions yet, but as other have mentioned before OR has a solid reputation for its warranty and I can vouch for that. Jury is still out for me on the jacket for its intended purpose though.Mar 1, 2014 at 7:52 pm #2078516
…Mar 1, 2014 at 8:04 pm #2078521
I think this mh superlight plasmic or mh capacitor are my top choices. 8oz and 10oz, $200 and $140.
Mh's evap dryQ is a real membrane I think and it seems more promising compared to pertex shield.
Thoughts? I have not read much about this membrane here, but the superlight plasmic uses 15d I'm not sure if it's like event or not.Mar 1, 2014 at 11:35 pm #2078554
Found this info,
Dry.Q Elite is 3L eVent.
Dry.Q Evap is 2.5L eVent DVL.
So as long as it fits I'll try the mh plasmic super light. It seems similar to the westcomb focus lt but cheaper. If all else fails the OR helium seems great too but lacks pockets.
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