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sleeping bag coupler or two bags?

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Linda Handley BPL Member
PostedJul 27, 2007 at 10:29 pm

Hi everyone,

I'm pretty brand new to the ultralight idea, so please forgive any obvious questions (" Just to give a little background, my main objective here is to make it possible for me to backpack with my 4 year old son, so I'm aiming at getting my total "skin out" weight (that is what you say, right?) down to about 30 lbs – including all my gear, all his gear, and food for both of us. All he'll carry for now is a camel back.

It seems to me that at this point I can reduce my weight the most with new sleeping bags. We've both currently got thermarest prolite 3 48" pads, which seem pretty reasonable. So I'm trying to find some ultralight bags. We spent some time at Downworks in Santa Cruz yesterday and checked out the "coupler" system that they make, where one bag is opened up and zipped to a bottom sheet that has pockets for two pads (I think Western Mountaineering and Mountain Hardware might make something similar also). It seems to make sense to just get one bag for the both of us. The lightest bag they've got to fit the coupler is 1lb 13oz and the coupler itself is 10oz. So it would come out to about 1lb 3.5oz per person. But I'm curious if there are better options out there. Anyone know of any ultralight kid's size bags out there? Or has anyone experienced any disadvantages to the coupler system? Like I said, we're brand new to this, so any ideas, suggestions, advice, etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, linda

PostedJul 28, 2007 at 8:34 am

Linda; welcome to BackPackingLight; Here's another choice, the lightest one bag solution: one Super Stretch Montbell Down Hugger LONG and two Montbell UL pads toggled side by side. If you are 70kg or less you can both fit in this huge bag easily; longs stretch to a shoulder circumference of 75". This comes to 25.2 ounces per person for one 30'F bag AND two 120cm pads.

However, you already have your pads; so economically it would be better to go with the option mentioned at a slightly higher weight.

Others might suggest a quilt/pad combo which would be lighter still.

PostedJul 28, 2007 at 9:51 am

hi Linda! i have a 5-year-old so i kinda know what you're dealing with. nobody is currently making ultralight kids' sleeping bags, however there are a few options out there that you might look into if you decide not to go the shared bag route (you could also share a large quilt).

if you are totally new to ultralight, you may not know about quilts. quilts are similar to mummy bags, but they don't close up like a mummy – no zipper. go to nunatakusa.com for some great pictures of the quilt concept.

how does your boy sleep? if he instinctually keeps his blankets wrapped around him, as my boy does, then you could get him something like Nunatak's Arc AT, which is a quilt designed to come up to an adult's midsection and be used in conjunction with a down parka. i just sewed a copy of the Arc AT for my boy (although i doubled the insulation). or you could get him an elephant's foot or half-bag. pop a warm hat on him and these solutions should work fine.

my husband and i used a single bag with a homemade coupler for quite a few years, but this year i sewed a 2-person down quilt to replace that system. we've only had 2 opportunities to use it since i sewed it, but it seems to be working pretty well.

hope that was any help and if i wasn't clear on anything just ask.

Steven Nelson BPL Member
PostedJul 28, 2007 at 11:51 am

Western Mountaineering makes the "Tamarak" bag that's 5' long and meant for kids or as a partial bag for adults.

http://www.westernmountaineering.com/index.cfm?section=Products&page=Sleeping%20Bags&cat=Microfiber%20Series&viewpost=2&ContentId=73

We use the Aspen with a Coupler – not that light, and not the best option for people with widely-different temperature comfort ranges. It also lets in some cold air when either person moves (some quilt designs I've seen use a "tonsil" or other arrangement to block the gap).

Linda Handley BPL Member
PostedJul 30, 2007 at 12:23 pm

Thanks for all the ideas! There are so many things out there that I'd never heard of before.

linda

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