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Did Joe (ZPacks) come close to nailing it with his bivy?

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USA Duane Hall BPL Member
PostedFeb 24, 2014 at 10:44 am

I was looking at bivies again the last three to four days, thought about a number of small companies. Borah, Katabatic, Zpacks, MLD. Never took a close look at ZPacks bivy, looked like a pretty basic bivy, hard to get in and out of. Did not realize it had a longer zipper, lighter than a Katabatic Bristlecone, but more expensive. The deal maker for me was the netting that is velcroed in place AND the bivy can still be opened up part way to vent with the netting in place, or opened up further when the bugs are no issue. Only a weight savings of .8oz. when not needed, but gets it out of the way in the shoulder seasons. I usually use a gc, so the cuben bottom does not bother me.
I had been thinking how neat it would be to have a layered bivy, with parts that could be removed when not needed, or interchanged, but not at a weight gain penalty for that option.
Forgive me if I missed a bivy you believe is better.
http://www.zpacks.com/shelter/bivy.shtml
Duane

Miner BPL Member
PostedFeb 24, 2014 at 7:58 pm

I own several Zpacks products and like the company. However, I gave this one a do over. It had an interesting idea, but couldn't quit deliver on what I wanted.

5.8oz + 0.8oz for the bug screen (6.6oz) isn't saving me over my existing bivies. 5.5oz MLD Superbivy with CF bottom or Borah CF bivy at 4.45oz and I can keep the bug netting. As it actually weighs more then what I own so I'm clearly not part of their targeted audience. So no, I don't think Joe nailed it on this one. This doesn't mean its a bad product and I'm sure some people will like it. I just won't be buying it until Joe figures out how to reduce it by another ounce or more.

As for using the netting with it partially unzipped; While its interesting it isn't really necessary in my experience. I normally bring a quilt rated for the temperatures I expect on a trip and bugs aren't always a problem depending on the time of the year and where you are camping (camp selection can reduce the need for bug protection). If its hotter then comfortable in my 40F quilt while zipped up in a bivy, then I don't use the quilt and treat the bivy sack like a lightweight sleeping bag while wearing whatever clothing layers I need to get the temperature right. If a 40F quilt is too cold, then bugs won't be a problem at night since they will disappear when the temp drops at night.

USA Duane Hall BPL Member
PostedFeb 24, 2014 at 8:18 pm

In the heat of summer, I'll leave the bivy at home, it will just be too hot, even up north here. I think more in the shoulder seasons when there are still a few mosquitos out and the ants, plus it will deflect wind, the #1 thing I hate if bping, keeping me warmer. I'm seeing if I can pick up a nice, used flat tarp to use with this, the non-net top will deflect rain spray if rain is encountered. If it is too warm, it can be unzipped. We'll see, I had a bivy for one or two nights last Spring and did not like how tough it was to get in and out of. Hopefully it will be better, like a few new shelters I bought last year, I can sell it.
Duane

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