sleeping system

What are you using for a pad? Without a warm enough pad you will be cold but it feels cold on top as it sucks your heat out the bottom.

The Siren is a nice little quilt. A bit pricy and a bit heavy with a few wonky quirks but it should be warm to freezing with just a base layer.

-Tim

Tim (the guy above me) makes reasonably priced quilts that are highly regarded on here. Get a 20 degree.

edit: forgot to add, his company name is enlightened equipment.

Tim
I am using the nemo pad that they recommend.
Thanks
Eric

Eric,

How are you using it? Are you putting the pad inside the quilt like their promotional photos? If do this may be part of your problem. The quilt is a little small to go around you and the pad without loft compression. If that's the case use the quilt on top and you may find it warmer. Also try a warmer head covering. Some people use little head Insulation (Me) but others want serious head warmth (maybe you). Also what do you wear on your feet?

How to you like the NEMO "Pad attachment system"?

-Tim

I know I have used 30 degree quilts and sleeping bag down to 15 degrees, but I wear layers, including a down hooded sweater to bed and use warm sleeping pads (or underquilt if I'm in a hammock).

As Tim mentioned, a warm cap is important. Keeping your head and torso warm is key.

My hands and feet will get cold first if I don't have enough insulation on my head and/or torso.
I believe that is common with most people and part of how your body works.

I have used the bag like a quilt, not a bag. I think I need to close the bag.
Thanks
Eric