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Copper Spur UL2 vs. Double rainbow or another “one person palace”?

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Michael K BPL Member
PostedJan 26, 2014 at 12:57 pm

Hi. I currently have a Coppur Spur UL2 that I use as my "one person palace" mainly for when I do 1 week (or a bit longer) trips deep into the backcountry and base camp to climb and/or fish. I'm pretty satisfied with the copper spur UL2……except I'd like to lose some weight while not sacrificing on convenience. The double rainbow would help me lose a pound (41oz vs. 56oz.) . The Copper Spur has usually not had issues with condensation, it does pretty well in storms (in 30+ it does bend quite a bit, but u stay dry), and has extra room for keeping gear inside the inner away from those pesky critters. Will the double rainbow perform as well as the Copper Spur in storms and in particular…..breathe and deal with condensation similarly? I'm concerned that without a screen above me…..the rainbow will have more dripping issues and if I add a solid inner I'm no longer really saving any weight. Any other ideas?

The requirements for the shelter are:

1) It does not require trekking poles b/c I use my poles for climbing and day hikes as I climb and day hike while leaving most of my gear at camp.

2) Fully enclosed for protection against bugs, but mainly to stop marmots and goats etc. from eating my gear at night and when I leave my tent on day hikes. I find that marmots in Colorado will even chew on stuff under the fly (my fishing rod handles and pack were chewed on like this).

3) It must accommodate a taller person (6'2" with a tall sleeping bag)

4) I'm a bit "scared" of Cuben fiber for the main shelter, since in these high altitude backcountry sites the locations can be limited and rocky. Also, I don't like the lack of privacy of cuben fiber tents, which also allows anyone who passes by your tent to see you are not in there and the gear that is inside it from the outside.

On these week or longer trips I need room to sleep and hang clothes inside the tent which I may have just washed or are wet from rain. This of course can add to condensation issues. My other option is to get a very lightweight single man tent and a separate light tarp to put over my drying clothes in wet conditions or to cook in rainy conditions. A TT rainbow could work, but many of the lightweight shelters like the TT Moment DW or Fly creek Ul1 and 2 don't work for me because of their length (I'm 6"2 and use a long sleeping bag). A TT Rainbow (31oz.) + 4.5 oz. 6x 9 cuben tarp from zpack would be 35.5 oz.

I usually do a series of these types of trips for 2 months one after another in Colorado in the summer and I find that if I do not wash my clothes on these consecutive prolonged trips that I eventually have issues like monkey butt and feet issues etc. after a couple trips. I don't have these issues if I wash my clothes while in the backcountry. When it rains for days……without a place to hang stuff sheltered from the rain…..I pretty much can't practically wash anything. If I buy another shelter, I'll probably sell my Copper Spur in order to buy the 2nd shelter, so I want to be relatively sure that it will perform well .

Jesse Anderson BPL Member
PostedJan 26, 2014 at 2:09 pm

The Dash is a new tent out from REI this year. It would be somewhere between 2lbs7oz and 2lbs15oz depending on your stakes and guy lines. At that weight it could save you a bit of weight while giving you a full double wall tent. Looks like it's still web only, but I imagine it will hit stores sometime this spring. Oh, and at 90" long with fairly steep walls, it seems rather spacious for it's weight.

Tom Keefe BPL Member
PostedJan 26, 2014 at 3:13 pm

I have a DR and a larger 4 person CS. You will make some small sacrifices to save weight going from the CS to the DR, but they are nothing that I would consider a deal breaker.

I think the DR holds up as well in a normal configuration, maybe better with trekking poles set up in support mode under the peaks on the inside (assuming it's fully staked).

The copper spur is more convenient and easier to set up in more locations as it's truly freestanding.

You will have some condensation in the DR and will want to avoid touching the walls if you can. Make sure you follow the instructions when sealing the seams and put some grip and the bottom of the tent, this helps a lot to stay put during the night and not end up brushing the sides.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the wind tends to blow right through the DR so it tends to be a bit more cold (could be a good or bad thing depending on the weather).

PostedJan 26, 2014 at 5:27 pm

A lightheart gear solong 6 is long, roomy for 1 persons, and can be ordered with aluminum poles. Tons of room under the vestibules for storing gear and wet clothes.

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