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3oz down jacket with hood and =>30d outer?

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PostedJan 24, 2014 at 11:02 am

I have spent way too much time trying to figure this out. The Hadron anorak isn't enough warmth for me, and I'd prefer a heavier outer layer. I thought I'd manage down to 30F with a 100wt fleece and the Hadron. It seems silly to add a vest underneath and end up with a bad fabric:fill ratio. The Hadron looks kind of goofy too, with huge shoulders.

I wish Montbell made the Highland with higher fill down and a hood.

Any ideas? Any ideas for under 30d, too?

I might get this? ..but it's 22d…. http://www.geartrade.com/item/365657/down-sweater-full-zip-hooded-jacket-mens-black

Also, I read Richard Nisley say that 2oz jackets are '40f male class' (thermo-neutral at rest, I assume, and with no wind) and 16oz are -30F male class… I don't have more data to plot but is it roughly 5F per ounce? ie, 3oz is 35F, 4oz 30F, etc.?

Stephen M BPL Member
PostedJan 24, 2014 at 11:12 am

I moved from the Hadron to the MB Mirage, its like the differnce between light and day. The outer is fragile but not that bad.

PostedJan 24, 2014 at 12:09 pm

I meant to say 3oz fill, not 3 ounce total. 5 ounces of down and 7d outer is way too warm and fragile for me :)

I keep thinking about the alpine light but it will be too warm for me.

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedJan 24, 2014 at 12:22 pm

It's too bad that the Mont Bell down inner jacket is unavailable. I've been using one for several years now, and it suits me for cold summer mornings.

–B.G.–

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedJan 24, 2014 at 12:51 pm

Steven, that is very close. There are some small details that appear different.

–B.G.–

Brad Rogers BPL Member
PostedJan 24, 2014 at 1:08 pm

The older style Mont-Bell Alpine Light Parka had a 30d shell and 4oz of down. I have had the UL Down inner since 2008 and it has been used extensively. It seems plenty tough to me. My only worry is a fire ember, but I don't often have fires.

The Patagonia Down Sweater has 3oz of down and what seems like a burlier shell then most.

Marmot Zues?

PostedJan 25, 2014 at 6:09 am

Seems like the only options are the Patagonia down sweater hoody or the Western Mountaineering Flash but both have ~20d outer and the Patagonia fit is baggy (eh). Might just have to go with the $40 off used patagonia.

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