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Smashing Cold-Weather Hammock Myths

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PostedJan 4, 2014 at 7:35 am

I saw that we had an interesting thread on Shug's courageous -40ºF night in a hammock, and since the Northeast is getting it's own cold snap, I thought I'd do some of my own testing and let you guys know how it went.

I believe underquilts are too heavy and not worth the carry weight in a hammock setup. I choose instead to use a sleeping pad in my hammock, and I'll detail my setup here.

Temperatures: -6ºF to -16ºF with a slight breeze

Hammock Setup:

Grand Trunk Ultralight Hammock (usually a Grand Trunk Nano 7, but it ripped…)
Thermarest X-Therm Torso Length Air Pad
Thermarest Z-Lite Foam Pad
Mountain Hardwear Ultralamina 45º inside of a Mountain Hardwear Ultralamina 15º

that's it!

Worn Clothing:
Darn Tough Merino Wool Socks
Baffin Insulated Slippers
Ibex Lightweight Merino Wool Baselayer, top and bottoms
Smartwool Midweight bottoms
Ibex Midweight Zephyr Zip Top
Patagonia Micro-D Fleece
Uniqlo Down Jacket
Arcteryx Atom SV Insulated Jacket
L.L. Bean Polartec Gloves

How'd my night go?

I slept like a baby both nights, and I slept at least 6 hours in a row. Since the human body has a ~2.5 sleep cycle, I estimate I was getting two complete cycles, waking up around 6-7AM being cold, and then falling back asleep anyways to grab one more sleep cycle before getting up at 9AM (I'm up late working).

Because I'm always cold in the morning, this system does let me wake up with the sun at dawn when I'm bike touring and backpacking, something I don't mind. I have a good enough understanding of my sleep system after this many nights to choose my insulating layers based on the temperature.

When it was -6º, I did not use the Polartec gloves, Uniqlo jacket, or Micro-D fleece. I added these for the -16º night.

Draftiness was a non-issue since the wind wasn't high, but on a windy night I have, in the past, added a tyvek sheet to line the hammock, which provides a bit of windproofing and protection against convective heat loss.

There was some frost buildup on the outside of my sleeping bag, especially around the opening for my face. This was expected and I imagine if I had a tarp over me, it would have collected the condensation and prevented riming on the bag.

My coldest area was my legs, since I can't afford insulated pants. Someday…

I'd be happy to discuss any details about my setup or about adjusting to cold weather through metabolism, since I've been honing my ability to sleep while cold for two winters now.

PostedJan 4, 2014 at 7:41 am

however i disagree about underquilts being too heavy. my 0 degree 3/4 length UQ weighs just around 20 oz. how much did your 2 pads combine to weigh? the big bonus (besides comfort) is better coverage. before switchign to UQs i slept on pads like you do. the problem w/ them is that they only insulate a little rectangle. you have to sleep straight on hammock, and i like to sleep on the diagonal. i feel that the UQ gives much fuller coverage and offers much more warmth due to "wrapping" underneath me.

regardless of that good job on your test. -16 is very cold. next step will be doing that away from the warmth of home. :D

Stephen M BPL Member
PostedJan 4, 2014 at 7:44 am

Good Job Max,

Just be careful sleeping in your Atom Sv as that can mash the insulation after a while, you could always lay it over you as an extra layer.

PostedJan 4, 2014 at 7:47 am

Josh, I've gone to -14º at home but I'm still working, so I'm backyard-bound for now. We went to about -5º on Camel's Hump in VT last year, too, but I was on the ground like a plebian.

The idea of the "small rectangle" of the sleeping pad makes sense to read, but in practice I find it to be a non-issue since the only place that matters is the area of the hammock that is bearing my weight. Realistically, for me, this is only about ~10-15 inches across and runs the length of my body. A sleeping pad is more than wide enough to prevent compression of the sleeping bag from cooling me down real quick.

Combined, my sleeping pads were 14oz for the air pad and 8oz for a cut-down Z-Lite. However, I could do more to reduce this weight, substantially more; if I use my pack underneath my legs (it fits nicely) then I can forgo the Z-Lite altogether and carry just the air pad. In addition to weight, however, there's also volume. My air pad takes up a lot less room than an underquilt in my pack, and my foam pad can be strapped on the outside of my pack without worry.

So, I think an UQ definitely has merits, but the idea that you need a full underquilt-quilt system to winter hammock is a myth. I've used underquilts and they are cozy. The traditional sleeping bags and pads I use still let me get just as good a night's sleep.

PostedJan 4, 2014 at 8:39 am

seems like that is the case with you surviving and getting some sleep through a cold night.

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