Best Down Pillow? High FP too soft?

My solution is to use my WM Meltdown jacket in a small silk pillow case and closed with a rubber band for my backpacking pillow. In a pinch I can use the Meltdown for layering in real cold temps.

Especially since you are a side sleeper I think you will find that a down pillow will not have enough support. The one you have is probably a good example of how others will perform. They are just too compressible to be a good pillow and are no match for an 8lb human skull.

Ryan

Thanks Ryan; if that's the case, I think I'll keep using the one I have in conjunction with a jacket.

Max

I can make you a syn. pillow that weighs 3-4 oz with the measurements being 12"x11" with about 4" loft.

I'm also a crazy thrasher/side sleeper and this pillow works good, and if I need more hieght I just fold it in half and I still have enough pillow for my head.

The last one I made I used Nobul 1 material, but I think the next one I make will be out of Argon, just to see if I can make it lighter and more durable, not that this one isn't durable, I just like the Argon material for some of my projects.

Here's a bad picture of the last one I made, comes in at 3.3 oz

yeah – the properties that make down good insulation are the opposite of what you need for pillow

synthetic insulation – same except not as bad

My wife bought a cushion for outside to sit on from the thrift store. Some of the cushion was ruined, so before throwing it away, I salvaged some good part and made a pillow.

Or fabric store probably has cushion material

Or buy a seat cushion at outdoor store and cut out a small piece

I sewed a cover out of supplex fabric

You said (facetiously) you're thinking about sewing, that's a first step, but difficult for your nomadic lifestyle – maybe go visit someone with a sewing machine

4.2 oz, 8" x 9":

I tried nobul1 – too slippery, slips out from under head while sleeping

Supplex has more friction, and feels good against skin, sort of like cotton cloth, but a bit heavy

Goosefeet Gear makes a down pillow with a pocket. It's not quite a stuff sack, but you can put clothing items or even an air pillow into the pocket to firm it up. I haven't used it, but I hear good things.

I just got one of the GooseFeet stuff sack pillows. Their "large" model, oversized by 1 inch in width so the stuff pocket fits a NeoAir pillow. I went with the Pertex Quantum 20D fabric and 2.5 ounces of down fill. It's really a nice product. Very comfortable with the air pillow and could also be stuffed with down jacket or fleece.

I also had Ben make a Quantum Pertex 20D pillow case for an old down bed pillow. Pretty nice for car camping!

Good quality. Good service. Quick delivery. Ben was great about answering questions (how much down, what size for the NeoAir pillow, etc.)

How about one of these things?

http://www.ostrichpillow.com/

In all fairness, I, too am in a similar search, but wish for something to have the same loft on either side of my head while I switch from side to side. At home, I have found I sleep much more deeply with part of my pillow folded over my exposed ear. Earplugs don't work as well, either.

I switch between my myog kapok pillow and one of those wrap around travel neck pillows with "micro beads". Rather like the latter because I can snap it around my neck and just rotate it a bit to adjust thickness and it doesn't ever come off. Also keeps my neck nice and warm. I use the kapok one in warm weather.

The micro bead travel pillow (bought for like 7 dollars at TJ Maxx) is a new addition, but have used it a few times so far recently.