MLD Speedmid Problems

The 22 oz would be for the tarp itself, not including guylines and stuff sack.

The exact color of the tarp will depend on the silnylon manufacturer; MLD tests the silnylon they purchase for waterproofness, not color matching.

website says peak height is 4' (=48") not that different than your measured 46"

They don't really specify how far the edges should be above ground to get that

I like a peak height more like 60" if it's raining a lot, enough room to move around a little, with a pyramid, it gets narrow at the top so all of that height really isn't usable.

web site says "This is a low peak style Mid. Best for 3+ season use."

I just received my yellow Littlestar and it's a nice pleasant yellow color when pitched. certainly not a dealbreaker. Agreed on the weight measurement discrepancies. As per the height, what was your pole set to? The website states an appropriate length pole for using this mid, but certainly makes no guarantees about operational height. maybe a case of RTFM?

>>6" pole jack available for users with shorter poles. 1.4oz- A full length 140cm pole is tall enough but if you have a shorter pole >>of a fixed length pole note in the comments for a free 6" pole extender.

"The website states an appropriate length pole for using this mid, but certainly makes no guarantees about operational height. maybe a case of RTFM?"

Not quite true. RTFM indeed….

From the MLD site:

On the Duomid page: Height: About 54\' with a tight ground pitch – Most users will want to pitch it a few inches off the ground for ventilation and even more space.

On the Speedmid page: The SpeedMid is the same height as the DuoMid.

Though I'm not sure how this can be, since also from the product pages, the Speedmid is listed as 8.9' X 8.9' X 4', while the Duomid is listed as 8' 9" X 5' X 4' 6"

So the site is a tad confusing.

I love it when I shoot from the hip and get called out.. grrr.

I have an older speedmid. The peak height with the 4 corners against the ground is somewhat variable depending on how tight you stake out the 4 corners. On mine, with the 4 corners staked out really tight the peak height is about 46-48 inches or so and results in a really tight pitch. If I stake out the corners just to the point where it is not loose (but not tight or stretched) the peak height will be about 52-54 inches. Mine must have a lighter and maybe more stretchy silnylon than what is currently used.

Mine weighs 23 oz but that's including a full perimeter noseeum net.

I'm not sure about the descriptions on the website but I previously had a duomid that I sold and the peak height I think was higher since it required a pole extender. On my duomid I use trekking pole set to max height without any kind of pole extender.

I already said the weight and color discrepancies were fine (but not great). Stuff sack plus guylines will not be 2.3 oz

And regarding the stated height on the MLD page, it used to say 4.5' as the height. Since posting here it has changed to 4' (glad it is now correct).

My trekking pole was set to 46 inches

In the past the solomid page had some sentences about the duomid.

What did Ron say, or am I wrong to assume that you would have contacted the manufacturer first?

I told him it was shorter than I expected and that I'd like to return it. He offered no explanation for the height discrepancy but said I can return it.

So it seems my main beef with the Speedmid (its lower than expected height) is simply due to an inaccurate website description which has now been corrected. I'm surprised I have not seem this mentioned before.

I wonder what's caused the Speedmid to gain weight in recent years?

I think it's fairly common for MLD stuff to come in above stated weights. I bought a silnylon tarp from them a couple years ago that was 20% above spec. After some research I found 3-4 threads here about this same topic. Left a bad taste in my mouth, so no more purchases from MLD for me.

Ryan

My bivy and trailstar were spot on weight wise but my duomid was about 15% over.