Dec 2, 2013 at 9:11 am #1310480
Hey all – just wanted to post up a gear list that I was very happy with for my NOBO PCT hike this year. Tent was awesome and the pack and sleeping bag worked great (all the issues I had with my 1st gen Arc Blast have now been addressed in the 2nd gen of the pack).
#1 RULE for new hikers — BRING YOUR OWN GEAR – don't share…I didn't see ANY friends make it all the way through together.. and many of the couples didn't either…
#2 WET WIPES ARE YOUR FRIEND IN SOCAL!!
#3 HAVE SOME SORT OF NAVIGATION — saw a few folks that had nothing..not even a compass..just stupid.
MY STATS: 6'1" lean hiker around 165 lbs., sleep average to a bit warm and am used to North East hiking. Hopefully you'll pick up a useful tidbit or two.
Naturally Caffeinated’s NOBO PCT 2013
(May 19th – October 29th)
Actual Base Weight (135.9 oz. = 8.5 lbs)
Shelter (20.5 oz.)
Yama Mountain Gear Cuben Cirriform SW (17 oz.)
6” Ti-Eye Stakes (8 stakes = 2 oz.)
Gossamer Gear Polycro Ground Sheet (1.5 oz.)
Backpack (18.5 oz.)
Zpacks Arc Blast (17 oz.)
Trash Compactor Bag (1.5 oz.)
Sleeping (28.2 oz.)
Thermarest Z-lite Torso (8 oz.)
Zpacks 30* Wide/X-Long Sleeping Bag (18.2oz.)
Zpacks Stuff Sack Pillow (2 oz.)
Hygiene/Tools/Lighting (10.4 oz.)
Leatherman Style CS – (1.4 oz.)
Petzl Tikka XP w/ CORE (3 oz.)
Hand Sanitizer (2 oz.)
Toilet Paper in Ziploc (2 oz.)
Wet Wipes (2 oz.) SoCal*
Clothing Carried (25.3 oz.)
BirdiePal Swing Liteflex Trekking Umbrella (6 oz.)
Patagonia Houdini Windshirt (4.3 oz.)
Montbell Dynamo Wind Pants (2 oz.)
Brooks Unlined Running Shorts (2 oz.)
Mountain Hardwear Ghost Hooded Jacket (7.8 oz.)
(2) Injini Liner Toe Socks (2 oz.)
Buff (1.2 oz.)
Emergency / First Aid / Gear Repair (4 oz.)
Cuben Repair Tape / Tenacious Tape / Zinc Oxide/ Chapstick / Needle / Dental Floss / Leukotape P /
Aleve / Salt Tabs / Bacitracin / Bandages/ MEDS (Metronidazole, Cipro, Heavy Pain Meds, Antihistamine, Antidiarrheal)
Music / Photo/Ditty Bag: (14 oz.)
Camera, Extra Battery, StickPic (8 oz.)
Ipod Touch w/Guthook’s PCT App (4 oz.)
Silva Forecaster 610 Compass (0.5 oz.)
Yama Cuben Wallet/ License / CC / Cash (1.5 oz.)
Food/Water Storage / Purification: (14.5 oz.)
Sawyer Squeeze Filter THEN SteriPen Opti (when Sawyer broke after 700 miles) (3 oz.)
2 L Evernew Bladder (2 oz.)
(2) Gatorade H2O 1 L Bottles (3 oz.)
STS 20 L Silnylon Food Bag (3 oz.)
Gallon Ziplock Snack Bag (0.5 oz.)
STS Alpha Light Spoon (0.5 oz.)
—- THE REST IS NOT INCLUDED IN MY BASE WEIGHT
** CLOTHING/ GEAR – WORN (45.6 oz.) **
Mountain Hardwear Chiller LS Shirt (9 oz.) LOVED this shirt — held up for the whole hike and was comfortable and fast drying
Tilley LTM8 Airflo Hat (4 oz.) Best Brimmed hat I've ever used – great ventilation
Smith V2 Max Rx Sunglasses (3 oz.)
RailRiders Bone Flats Pants (10 oz.) (till Kennedy Meadows then shorts only) Loved the pants
Altra Lone Peak sz 13 (14 oz.) BEST SHOES IN THE WORLD, got 1,200 miles on a single pair.
Dirty Girl Gaiters (1.8 oz.) You will see a lot of people with these gaiters — they work well
Darn Tough ¼ socks & Injinji Toe Socks (3 oz.) Used mostly Darn Tough Socks
Komperdell Peak UL Compact Trekking Pole (6.4 oz.) Nicest discontinued pole ever made, used it and my umbrella to set the tent up.
** SIERRA’S/ Whitney Supply Box @ Kennedy ** Meadows and OR/WA**
DEET (2 oz.) A MUST HAVE
Saline Nasal Gel (2 oz.) Great for bloody noses in the desert or at elevation
Peter’s Headnet (1.5 oz.) The Best Made (custom for my Tilley Hat size)
Bearikade Weekender (BPL Borrow) (31 oz.)* Great Can – but not really worth the money if you'll only be using it this one time
MLD eVent Mittens / Rainproof – (1 oz.) Still going strong after AT, LT, and NET hikes
MSR Titan Kettle / WhiteBox Stove/ Fuel Bt / Screen/Bic Mini Lighter (7.6 oz.) Nice set-up for summer, Titanium Jet Boil is good to.
** Washington Snow Hiking
(Snowqualmie Pass → Border about 250 miles in mixed snow/ice) ** (About 40lbs fully supplied for a 6 day section)
Kahtoola Microspikes (15 oz.)
NeoAir Xlite Large (15 oz.)
MSR Axis Ascent 25” Snowshoes w/ 5” Tails
BD Trail Ergo Cork Poles w/ Snow Baskets
Fleece Hat / Gloves / Balaclava
Marmot Rain Pants
MH Rain Jacket (picked up in Bend, OR)
Montbell Thermawrap Jacket / Pants
Rocky Mountain Gore-tex Socks
EMS GTX Winter Gaiters
GoLite Pinnacle Backpack
Big Agnes Copper Spur 1
EMS Bottle Cozy w/ 2 Nalgene 1L Bottles
Esbit Fire Starters
Smartwool Expedition Socks
EMS T2 Baselayer LS Top / Pants
One Pair Hand / Foot WarmersDec 2, 2013 at 3:15 pm #2050080
Awesome list man! Thanks for sharing. You seemed to doing great when I ran into you with a group of BPLers in Emigrant Wilderness in July. Glad to see this worked for you.
JamesDec 2, 2013 at 4:23 pm #2050101
John S.BPL Member
Thanks for sharing Seth. Which umbrella did you use?Dec 2, 2013 at 4:24 pm #2050102
I was excited to meet all of you – and hope the Emigrant Wilderness was as epic as it looked from my brief passage through it! I snagged a photo of the group — don't remember all who are in it, but they are popping up in this thread as time passes!
(Far Left – Kevin Burton, unknown, Jay Wilkerson, Unknown till Far Right – James DeGraaf.)
.Dec 2, 2013 at 4:28 pm #2050103
My trekking umbrella was the BirdiePal Swing Liteflex w/ Silver Reflective Mylar : ProLiteGear.com has them for $30
Got it because I didn't want the GoLite logo on my umbrella…they didn't pay me to market for them.
BEST ITEM I CARRIED ON THE PCT WAS MY UMBRELLA !! My zpacks pillow stuffsack was also AWESOME, but here are all the things I could do with my umbrella:
– Hike during the heat of the day in relative comfort, while others near perished in the 110* heat
– Use only a Houdini Windshirt till Bend, Oregon – the umbrella took care of little spouts in the Sierra's
– A place to nap in the shade, when there was no shade to be had
– REAR SUPPORT for my Yama Mountain Gear Cirriform SW tent (front support was my single CF trekking pole)
– Protected my eyes from driving hail and freezing rain while going through the Knifes Edge in near white out from typhoon conditions.
– ENVY of every other hiker in the Sierra's (those exposed climbs can get HOT).
– Major cool points by being the guy with the silver umbrella (you do tend to see a fair number of people carrying them)Dec 2, 2013 at 5:10 pm #2050117
Haha, that's me there, on the right holding my golite umbrella! It's funny, that is the picture you chose then posted about your umbrella. Coincidence?
-JamesDec 2, 2013 at 5:20 pm #2050128
I knew you had to be in there somewhere ! The funny thing is — the only trekking umbrellas I saw where GoLite Chrome Dome's — mine was the lone wolf of the bunch… but all in all they are EXACTLY the same umbrella – and I saw two people pick up Chrome Domes out of the Kennedy Meadows hiker box after seeing me with mine :-)
Not hating on the GoLite – just wanted to "walk a different path" in the umbrella department!Dec 3, 2013 at 5:28 pm #2050523
I looked at a a bunch of reviews for the Altra Lone Peaks and pretty much everyone said that they disintegrated after just a few miles. How did you get 1200 miles out of one pair? I believe you, it just sounds wierd that you did 1200% better than others.Dec 3, 2013 at 5:34 pm #2050524
Excellent list, I'm curious. Did you feel that the 30 degree bag was enough. I was planning on a 20.
Thank you for the list. Lots of great info.Dec 3, 2013 at 6:31 pm #2050542
I don't mean to answer for the OP but in the Sierra Nevada Mnts during the summer, a 30* bag should be sufficient if not more than enough. A 20* might be overkill. The times I spent in the Sierra Nevada Mnts this summer a 30* was plenty if not maybe too much, however, when I brought my 20* it was far too much. I did wear clothes, wool base layers, and down jacket, to bed and was overly warm in my 20* quilt while I was just fine with my 30* bag. Hope that helps but I'm sure Seth will be able to answer that much better than I can.
JamesDec 3, 2013 at 7:08 pm #2050557
Here's what I've got to say :
@ CAMERON – regarding the ALTRA LONE PEAKS: I don't know if the Reviews you saw were Runners or Hikers – but I loved them.
1st Pair from Mexico and went 700 miles till Kennedy Meadows
–> I then got a pair of old Brooks Cascadia 7's from home (previously used running shoes with about 250 hard miles already on
–> them) and used the Brooks till South Lake Tahoe (about 395 miles)
2nd Pair at Tahoe got Altra Lone Peak 1.5 's (first pair was the old model). These lasted till Cascade Locks, OR (1055 miles — NOT 1,200 as I had guess when writing that up)…Still — not bad at all!
3rd Pair from Cascade Locks till Manning Park (500 miles — with about 200 being in MSR Axis Ascent Snowshoes or Microspikes)
OVERALL I loved the shoes and am embarrassed to admit that I am actually still wearing the 3rd pair right now as I right this. MAIN PROBLEM I HAD was with the Toe Guard coming unglued almost immediately — fast fix of just emptying a small tube of super glue on the toe guard right when I get them..problem solved (still look good on my feet – aside from the torn mesh from the snowshoe straps). I LOVE ALTRA AND WILL BE GETTING MORE OF THEIR SHOES. GREAT TOE BOX ROOMINESS AND VERY LIMITED BLISTERS COMPARED TO OTHER HIKERS.
@ JAMES R. – 30* was great. I brought the Ghost Whisperer Hooded Down and only wore it maybe 5 times to start sleeping in till the snow fell, and usually had to take it off after an hour when I warmed the bag up. Honestly it really depends on YOU — as I slept in the Western Mountaineering Whisper Liner (about 4 oz.) and that actually did add noticeable warmth. FOR THE PRICE and minimal weight gain — go with your gut. I WAS THE EXCEPTION NOT THE RULE. Most other UL quilt/bag users had a 20* bag. AND once the feathers start to go (a few a day) and it gets dirty between washes (I washed it ONCE at Ashland, OR while hiking) it will get more compressed and feel colder. FOR THE WEIGHT I'd almost say get an OVERSTUFFED 30* or 20* and you'll be spot on (if you're like me).
@ JAMES D. – Spot on with your comments. AGAIN I STARTED MAY 19TH. IF YOU START EARLIER PLAN ACCORDINGLY. I hit mostly warm weather until the snow hit me in Washington. Many folks I talked to really needed the extra warmth starting around APRIL and MAY… this is the time for your past experience to come into play. To each their own — but even if you have to layer up for a few nights — I think either way you'd be fine. IF YOU SLEEP COLD then go with the warmer bag for sure.Dec 4, 2013 at 12:31 pm #2050775
Richard BanksBPL Member
Were you fine sleeping without a big bivy or anything? Did you just wear the headnet to bed?
-Richard.Dec 4, 2013 at 1:15 pm #2050791
The Yama Mountain Gear Cirriform Single Wall is a tarp with the netting and silnylon floor integrated.
-JamesDec 4, 2013 at 4:21 pm #2050862
Right again James — I used a fully enclosed Cirriform SW Cuben for the trip. Bathtub floor, netting to simply zip closed on buggy of cold nights, and storage space for all the essentials to be in the tent with you. I often kept all my gear in the tent – including having my Arc Blast lay next to my feet. A very roomy tent for it's footprint, best I've found in that tent style.Dec 7, 2013 at 11:19 am #2051804
I didn't notice a pot or stove, unless I missed it. Did you do all no cook food? If so, what was your typical day like foodwise?Dec 7, 2013 at 8:03 pm #2051937
1) *Stoveless from Mexico to Kennedy Meadows. Super hot out and didn't really want hot meals after a long hot day.
2) Kennedy Meadows to South Lake Tahoe -MSR Titan Kettle / WhiteBox Stove/ Fuel Bt / Screen/Bic Mini Lighter (7.6 oz.) Nice set-up and enjoyed using it.
3) *Stoveless from Lake Tahoe to Snowqualmie Pass
4) Snowqualmie Pass to Canada – Jetboil Sol + Ti Mug. Snow camping and cold weather made hot meals not just good motivation, but also a safety thing. Good to have in case of needing to melt a lot of snow, or heat up the tent if I got hypothermic and needed water bottles by arteries. Also – I traveled in a group of 3 and we had 1 Jetboil and 1 MSR Reactor that was shared by all of us. I carried the Jetboil and the other two guys split the weight of the Reactor by having one of them carry more tent stuff.Dec 9, 2013 at 9:37 am #2052498
You completed the hike end of October? I live in the PNW and that's really late to be on the PCT. You must've run into a lot of snow on the trail.Dec 9, 2013 at 11:11 am #2052533
Your assumption of lots of snow is correct. I had mixed winter conditions from Snowqualmie Pass all the way to Manning Park, that included lots of crusting ice over an unstable snowpack and loose soil (from the previous rain). In particular, the Glacier Peak Wilderness was very challenging, and many sections of trail showed some damage and washout from the typhoon aftermath that came through in Sept/Oct and dropped record amount of rain and snow. The final few days from Hart's Pass also proved to be challenging, and the nights dropped into the low 20's for a couple nights. Our group got about 6-8 inches fresh snow at Hart's Pass, and that was ontop of the earlier snowfall. The last day to the border was extremely treacherous, and at one point we made only 3 miles in 5 1/2 hours of exhausting hiking. Needless to say, I'm very fortunate to have finished at all given the time of year and weather, and the day after we finished another 5 day snowstorm began that dropped over 12" at Hart's Pass. I DO NOT RECOMMEND HIKING AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, and our group of 3 were the last PCT hikers to finish for 2013 (as far a I know). Had I known the weather was going to get that bad, I would have hiked faster…but such is the trail!
The photo below is looking back at Rock Pass on my last day. This section would prove to be one of the most dangerous that I would go through. All the trail in this photo was unstable, and trying to kick in steps in the icy snow would often times lead to the whole step simply sliding away – rock, dirt, snow and all. It had taken me about 3 hours to get to where I was standing, from the ridgeline above me and to my right.
Dec 9, 2013 at 5:26 pm #2052668
Marko BotsarisBPL Member
@millonasLocale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Seth, I have to say that that one one of the better gear lists, both in form and content, I have ever read on here. Lean, yet totally comprehensive presentation. Kudos!Dec 9, 2013 at 5:59 pm #2052687
Matthew StengerBPL Member
@matthewstengerLocale: the beautiful northwest
Is there anywhere we could read more about your trip Seth? Do you have a blog?
I'd be very interested in hearing more about your adventures and seeing more pictures.Dec 9, 2013 at 6:57 pm #2052727
Thanks for the interest Mark and Matthew.
I do have a website: http://www.peaksandvalleys.weebly.com
And I do plan on having MUCH more stuff than is currently on there..but it all takes time, and money (I'm going to need to upgrade from a free website to a paid one) but more is one the way. And Christmas is a good time to get money…
I DO plan on having full trip reports with Photos and Videos on all my long hikes…I've already got good Long Trail and AT videos done, and almost a full AT write up…NET is done – but can't post it until I upgrade my site (I can't post videos or files larger than 10mb). The PCT will likely take some time, but I've got teaser videos up for now to keep you all interested.
Check out the website from time to time, as I will be working on it late into the night for many months to come. I'll post each new update to my site as it's completed so things will slowly start to appear.
Thanks for the good karma and I appreciate the interest. CheersDec 11, 2013 at 6:28 pm #2053364
Do the Altras run true to size? You mentioned a running and a hiking model but I can only seem to find running models.Dec 11, 2013 at 9:11 pm #2053424
@ Cameron – I mean't to say that ROAD shoes are what I consider running shoes, and TRAIL shoes are hiking shoes. The Lone Peaks are Altra's most cushioned trail shoe — and they are still very minimal at that. I found the Lone Peaks to be true to size — that is to say true to how I go about sizing shoes for myself. The toe box is WIDE which is way I like them, but overall I think they do run fairly true to size, but but I'd check out the Altra website or Amazon or another retailer for more reviews.Dec 12, 2013 at 4:20 pm #2053710
How many pairs of gaiters did you go through?
I like wide toe shoes as well. It doesn't make sense to me why shoes narrow so much at the toes when if anything your foot widens at the toes. I like my merrell ventilators for the wide toe box but I would like to try a more minimalist and flatter shoe.
ThanksDec 12, 2013 at 5:18 pm #2053735
I used only a single pair of Dirty Girl Gaiters for the whole trail — excluding the last 250 of snow — and I didn't even get any holes in the gaiters, i still have them with my gear. Not too bad for $18 pair of 2 oz. gaiters.
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