Olicamp Aluminum Mugs Rival Ti for Weight

Good find, Dale! It's always nice to see some inexpensive UL options out there!

Of course I discovered the hard anodized model after ordering the other. Someone will find it in their stocking come Christmas morning :)

Cool beans. Dale, have you ever seen a hard anonidized alum. double wall, insulated bottle? I've seen some Titanium ones and whoo boy they are pricey. Figure alum. would be a lot cheaper. Maybe its not strong enough?

some of these chinese companies are going to give the current stove/pot manufacturers a run for their money IMO

once they get into more retail outlets, and start focusing on customer service/quality … the current crop of stove companies are going to have a serious issue

mr. caffins articles on BPL touched on the issue …

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/made_in_china.html

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/2013_developments_canister_stoves.html

it seems like the REAL innovation these days is coming out of asia … especially the stoves

olicamp (fire maple) also makes a heat exchanger stove which prolite measured a 29% decrease in fuel use … now it may not be the lightest option out there .. but like a jetboil it might allow you to bring one canister instead of two, an allows you to keep using yr favorite stove … there is also a cost savings in fuel as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBFt-c33pyA

many of the current crop of "name brand" pots/stoves are probably made in the same chinese factories anyways

;)

fire maple heat exchanger – http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=67938

Also available from Amazon for about $13 for hard anodized:
http://www.amazon.com/Olicamp-Anodized-Space-Saver-Handle/dp/B007S3N5PE/

with a few review comments on protruding interior rivets that gouge water bottles and potentially trap bacteria.

— Rex

I saw those reviews on the rivets and that was my first point of inspection. The ones I got protrude a tiny bit, but nothing that would tear up a bottle— smooth and professional to my view. Most of my use would be boiling, but cleaning shouldn't be too hard. The rivets are typical for aluminum stuff.

I own a nice MSR Titan Kettle with lid, which weighs 4.2 oz, cost me $60.

Recently I picked up a Zelph lid for an Imusa aluminum mug, giving me nearly the same capacity (27 instead of 29 oz capacity) in a similar form factor. Mug + Lid = 2.8 oz, total cost $6.50.

Plus, the aluminum is substantially thicker than the Ti, and conducts heat better.

Yeah, but titanium sounds cooler. The Soviets made submarines from titanium before titanium got cheap!

Titanium is stronger, so you will get fewer dents and scratches.

— Rex

That is what the hard anodizing is for. When the Ti is thin enough to make it light, it dents as easily as the thicker aluminum.

Dents just add character to your gear… and help a noobie look experienced :)

billy

I hear that. My wife has a pot set with a nice set of bear's teeth marks in them. That's experience :)

Aluminum just makes more sense. But I'd only get an aluminum mug if you want to cook in it. Otherwise plastic makes more sense.

"Dale, have you ever seen a hard anonidized alum. double wall, insulated bottle? I've seen some Titanium ones and whoo boy they are pricey. Figure alum. would be a lot cheaper. Maybe its not strong enough?"

I've never seen a double wall Ti bottle. Stainless ones are readily available. I doubt if you would ever see a hard anodized aluminum version. Clear anodized maybe. The corrosion issues with aluminum are probably more of a factor than strength.

The best thermal bottles for the weight are the old corrugated aluminum thermos models with a glass vacuum liner. They are superior to any metal lined container. I have some— if you are interested, send me a PM.

"The best thermal bottles for the weight are the old corrugated aluminum thermos models with a glass vacuum liner."

Agreed. I have one that must be at least 50 years old. Works good. Lasts a long time.

–B.G.–

"Agreed. I have one that must be at least 50 years old. Works good. Lasts a long time."

I make musical instruments out of them. I actually checked with Thermos to see about buying the dies, but they were long gone. They haven't been made since the 1960's. The really old ones had cork stoppers. My grandfather wouldn't go fishing without one. I sipped many cups of scalding hot chocolate from one while bobbing up and down in the middle of Puget Sound.

Dale, do you still have the user instruction manual?

–B.G.–

"Dale, do you still have the user instruction manual?"

For Puget Sound? :)