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PostedNov 28, 2013 at 12:31 pm

vbl pant

Recently using a vbl liner with much success in a 3 layer (wool liner/NRS sock/ thick wool) gtx winter boot setup has me interested in using more Vbl in my winter ski-touring sleep kit.

The practicality of a vbl suit over a vbl bag led me to using a sylnylon raincoat for the top, plastic bags for feet (letting NRS socks air out overnight). I just needed a vbl pant layer.

polycro with template

At home depot I saw 1.5 mil. 'extra tough' wind film by Duck brand. Using the same brand of clear window film tape I decided to make some vbl pants.

I used a pair of sweat pants folded to show the 'j' shape in the groin as a template.

cut polycro layers

I cut through 4 layers of polycro and then used the sweat-pant model to rearrange the layers of poly cross so the outer-leg seam folds matched up. This allowed me to only need to tape the inseam and crotch.

First attempt tracing the 32×32 template resulted in pants that were way too tight. I did add 6 inches to the length of model. I cut a second pair adding as much width to the template as the 66" sheet would allow.

finished vbl pant: waist view

This pair fit with room to squat and move. The tape was applied on both sides on the crutch seams and seems to withstand repeated crumpling and the little use I've given around the house. Draw cord waist band and then elastic bands on sock/pant gap.

vbl pant over wool base layer

Weight seems to be around 3 oz. on large scale. 2 x 4" roll when packed. $5 cost/ pair. Cheap, fun to build, and light; I just hope it proves strong enough to last through real ski tour use. Though, I do only intend to use around camp at the end of the day and when sleeping.

PostedNov 30, 2013 at 7:46 am

Nice Kevin. What kind of tape did you use? I've thought about doing similar recently. Not sure if I will go with polycryo or siliconize a pair of cheap nylon wind pants. Wish I could find the 1.5 mil stuff around here. As to your concerns, its hard for me to say definitively, but I think the 1.5 mil stuff should hold up real well for camp/sleep use. The biggest problem I see is the cord in the waist band, the cord could abrade weaken the material there depending on the kind of cord used. Pure, slick dyneema cord might be one of the better kinds to use for that reason.

I agree with you that a VBL suit/clothing tends to be more practical overall, but I've also been considering making a VBL "bag" using 1/8th or 1/16th Evazote foam as I suspect it might allow one to sleep w/ out ones insulating clothes, and being very grippy material, if you did need to lay your jacket over you, it might stay better.

Valerie E BPL Member
PostedNov 30, 2013 at 3:53 pm

Just one small suggestion: don't wear them in the Laundromat on a thru-hike while you wash the rest of your clothing — you'll get arrested! ;~)

But seriously, nice job!

PostedNov 30, 2013 at 4:21 pm

Or possibly tipped. "Sharon, did you order the backwoods stripper…?" "No Cheryl, I thought you might have.."

PostedDec 2, 2013 at 2:58 pm

Justin- the tape was 1 3/8" clear tape sold alongside the film and called , "Window film tape." I used it full width on both sides of seams. Maybe future pair will use transfer tape and Cuben tape over the seam, but cheap and cludge seemed to work this time. Also, the 1.5 mil seems much much tougher than the regular window film (0.7 mil) I've been using for ground sheets.

Valerie- hahaha…even better is too shrink-wrapp the legs by wearing them too close to a hot fire, preferably with a base layer underneath….

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