Layering assistance needed

How about a nice puffy vest?

Light soft shells are good and layer nice with long johns. I like long johns and rain pants in cold rain. Forget regular pants if it's going to be raining all day.

True, just wear the fleece ones. It might be easier for me to get a vest as all i have to worry about is getting one long enough in the torso not the arms also.

Hi Brett,

I have a layer I've started using for trips where I think I might need some extra leg insulation: fleece knickers.

My method: I found a pair of cheap fleece pants at a thrift store. They were a bit oversized, allowing me to wear them over my long john/trail pant combo. I cut the legs off at the knee, then put in drawstrings so I could snug them up, though the drawstring is optional, I rarely tighten them up.

They seem to add just the right amount of warmth while I'm walking, while their breathability gives them a pretty wide comfort range when worn on top. I've also been using them in cold rain, over long johns and under my rain pants. My lower legs don't seem to get cold with long socks and gaiters on, but my upper thighs/groin/lower abdomen do get cold; these knickers have been just the ticket.