Nov 6, 2013 at 11:51 am #1309539
I'm wondering if anyone uses a good hiking staff instead of trekking poles? I really do not like trekking poles, but I'm not a fan of carrying a tent pole either. Are there decent adjustable hiking staffs out there? Does anybody use it with a hexamid?
-Richard.Nov 6, 2013 at 1:55 pm #2041890
Franco DarioliBPL Member
What is the advantage to you of a staff over a pole ?Nov 6, 2013 at 2:03 pm #2041895
None, really. I just don't like carrying a pole (Zpacks one is too flimsy) and having it as dead weight. I would carry a pole if it was durable and under 4oz or so.Nov 6, 2013 at 2:30 pm #2041901
–Nov 6, 2013 at 4:52 pm #2041951
+1 on contacting Joe at Zpacks.
I believe he made himself a 60" carbon fiber walking staff that weighs 8.5oz. From the looks of it, I suspect that the staff can separate into parts to provide the right length to support a Hexamid shelter.
Check out one of his recent photo albums here where you can see his staff in a bunch of the pictures:
Maybe he'd be willing to make you one?
I have a feeling you are going to have a hard time finding a sturdy hiking staff in the 4oz weight range. You might try modifying a long carbon fiber golf shaft though. I seem to recall somebody on the forum making hiking poles for himself with golf shaft blanks…Nov 6, 2013 at 6:12 pm #2041984
USA Duane HallBPL Member
@hikerduaneLocale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
SMD's tent poles are pretty heavy duty, I'd hate to get hit by one. I found ZPacks poles fine, of course when the length gets out there, I can see it could flex possibly. Pretty light, not much dead weight to me, but then I hike without poles or a staff.
DuaneNov 6, 2013 at 6:59 pm #2041998
Nick GatelBPL Member
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
Sometimes I use a hiking staff. Don't think it helps much for hiking, but I have been using it since before my kids were born and they both graduated from college a few years ago. I don't care for trekking poles.
A single LT4 could be used as a staff, meets your weight requirements, and is stiff enough to make a great pole for the Hexamid. I believe Yama makes a trekking pole that would fit the bill too — you could use just one and call it a hiking staff.
I agree, the standard zPacks pole is too flimsy. I bought a sturdy pole from Ruta Locura that is stiff enough for the Hexamid, and if I remember correctly, weighs around 4 ounces. But alas, it is a dedicated tent pole.
Sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it too.Nov 7, 2013 at 4:13 am #2042088Nov 7, 2013 at 7:38 am #2042134
Derrick WhiteBPL Member
@mikuLocale: Newfoundland & Labrador, Canada
My situation is similar: have used trekking poles but don't like them; still need a support for balance when fording rivers and need a tent pole. I have destroyed 4 trekking poles in one year doing river crossings. I am currently in discussions with Josh at RL to make me a custom staffpyramid mid pole. Will let you know what we come up with.
DerrickNov 8, 2013 at 7:36 am #2042510
Dustin ShortBPL Member
I'd second the LT4 suggestion. They're pretty stiff. Mine only broke when a buddy stepped on it directly and crushed the lower section on talus.
You can buy them individually now and they're in stock.Nov 9, 2013 at 3:52 pm #2042874
…But later switched to a homemade 60" carbon fiber walking stick for his Te Araroa thru-hike:
I'm assuming he did this to save the 2.2oz weight difference that he's listed between the two items.Nov 10, 2013 at 1:37 am #2042984
@derek, well, shiver me timbers. Had no idea. Last he and I talked about such things he was using the BigStick. I don't tend to go around reading everybody elses gear list line-by-line, so had no idea he did up his own. /mesah stands corrected.Nov 11, 2013 at 1:33 am #2043237
"I don't tend to go around reading everybody elses gear list line-by-line, so had no idea he did up his own."
Yeah, it's not exactly something to brag about is it? In this case, I actually was specifically interested in the walking staff and had looked up that minor detail some time ago. I couldn't tell you the rest of his gear selection though, I swear ;-)Nov 11, 2013 at 2:21 am #2043243
sorry, didn't mean for that to sound like smack talk… too many pirate references ;)Nov 11, 2013 at 2:25 am #2043245
ps: I have always wondered how he handles using the staff for a hexamid… if the staff is 60 inches and you use a ~48 inch pole for a hexamid… I wonder if his new staff breaks down into pieces (?????)Nov 11, 2013 at 3:02 am #2043249
I can tell from your previous posts that you aren't a malicious smack talker, so no worries :]. Regardless, it was pretty nerdy for me to point the detail out anyway.
As far as Joe's homemade staff being separable or not, I think this picture from one of his photo albums gives a clue:
In that photo you can see what appears to be the upper (or lower?) part of his staff hanging down vertically while the main shaft of the staff is slanted at an angle to support the hexamid. Maybe the separable part is on some sort of shock cord?
We could, of course, just ask Joe, but that almost feels like cheating at this point :)
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