Did any one get there quilts yet? What are your impressioins? I'm asking cause they may go on sale tomorrow.
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Cocoon quilts
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My Cocoon 180 (long), should be arriving sometime next week. I'll post back, after I've received it, and let you know what I think?
The only thing that I'm worried about, is it being too large, when stuffed, thus taking up more pack space.
Ryan Jordan told me, the 180 stuff size is 8"x13" which is a tad large, for going into a small pack, but should compress a little further, when stuffing it into your pack, I hope?
Remember, these were initially designed for the Arctic 1000 trek and used in conjunction with the Arctic Drybag Pack which has a lot of volume potentially at it's service. It's a stretch to think of these quilts being packed into a G6 or a Prophet along with the other requisite gear. If anything, I'm a little surprised that the quilt can (safely) pack down to 8×13 (roughly 650 cu. in.).
Well, I plan to use it along my GG Mariposa pack, and the MLD Zip, after, I've received it (on order)
The dims. of these two packs, are almost the same, except the GG pack, is taller. The depth and width are the same at 6.5" deep X 11" wide.
So, if I can get the 180 quilt into the Mariposa, it should fit into the Zip, as well?
I have a Mtn.Hardwear 45 deg PG bag, and it stuffs smaller than 8" x 13"
So, I think, the 180 will fit fine into the Zip and I'll still have plenty of room left over? "I hope"
I thought about getting the 90 Cocoon instead, but much of my trips are early spring and late Fall, where night-time temps. can be at or below 32 deg.
The key factor concerning compressibility is —how quickly do you want your Polarguard Delta insulation to die? If you over compress it, you're apt to damage it. If you throw in a couple of more Cocoon articles, such as the jacket and pants, remaining pack room becomes increasingly precious. I will be using a Cocoon jacket and pants in my Zip but my primary sleeping insulation remains Down for reasons of a superior warmth to weight ratio, smaller volume, and greater product life-span. Of course, product performance in consistently wet conditions has to be weighed on the balance, as well. Perhaps that's a major consideration for you.
I also have a WM Megalite down bag I can always fall back on as well.
My thoughts are to use the Cocoon 180 along with a Epic bivy, with and without a tarp. This way, if I pick-up excess condensation in the bivy, it will be less of an issue, while using the Cocoon versus the down bag.
I've taken the 180 quilt + UL pants + UL hoody in a G6 for a 3 day weekend outing: SUL 500 cook kit, windshirt, rain jacket, rain pants, food, 6×9 tarp, and one small pouch of accessories, no problem.
And there we have it…. :-)>
But did he pack a camera?
Ryan, thanks for your comments, it makes me feel a lot better with my decsion, with buying the Cocoon 180.
I'm a fairly warm sleeper too, so wearing extra clothing will only be needed, when temps. get really cold. (35 deg or less)
The Cocoon 180 along with a bivy and 6×9 tarp will be used mainly as part of an ultra-light kit, at under a 4lb base weight, used mostly for 3-4 day weekend trips. (well ultra-light for me anyway)
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