Q.Shield

That's good to hear,

If that's true, that'd be cool. I was talking to one of the sales people at the MH store in Seattle last weekend, asking him about their new Thermal.Q synthetic insulation and their claims that it's 15% warmer than the leading synthetic… I asked for the Clo of the fill per square meter and he told me 1.67. I call shenanigans as that's The same as 800 FP down. Those numbers would be making headlines if true. I think he might have been giving the total Clo of the jacket, but I don't think he knew the difference as he didn't understand why I was skeptical of his claims.

Probably referring to the jacket or a mistake. I am pretty sure the clo on the Thermal Q is 1.47.

thats for the 60g … not clo/oz/sqyd

so its not apples to apples

everyone claims they have the best synth insulation .. the problem is differentiating between the marketing spiel and whats real

;)

So I come to a clo/oz/yd2 of 0,82 to 0,93.

Apex is specd at 0.82 clo/oz/yd2 – that's probably the leading insulation

Primaloft One is 0.92

I've never seen any numbers for down but I measured 850FP down at 1.3 and 1.6 clo/oz/yd2

The Q.Shield Down is currently supplied from DownTek, simply rebranded. so I would expect similar performance and life.

Well that is nice of Mountain Hardwear to guarantee it as the coating is only supposed to last 10-20 washings.