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Down hooded jackets

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Adam G BPL Member
PostedOct 15, 2013 at 9:54 pm

So I'm in the market for a down jacket with a hood. I've read the state of the market report on ultralight jackets which does an excellent job of comparing the different jackets scientifically, but it doesn't really give any good frame of reference for how warm the jackets are. For example, the Montbell UL jacket seems to get good reviews, but then I've read that the Montbell UL jacket is only warm until the 40s, which doesn't seem very warm to me at all except for relatively low altitude summer backpacking.

I'm looking for a hooded down jacket that will keep me warm to maybe 10-20 degrees sitting or standing around. It would be the type of thing I would use on a PCT thru hike. During my time in the Sierras last August, it wasn't unusual to be 20 degrees in the morning if you were camping above 10,000 ft, and I imagine that the early season PCTers have it a bit colder. I imagine I would layer it with a long sleeve base layer, possibly a windshirt, and a hardshell on top for maximum warmth. Is the Alpine Light what I'm looking for? Or am I completely missing something?

Thanks.

PostedOct 15, 2013 at 9:59 pm

Feathered Friends Hooded Helios? It would be massive overkill for the summer months (you could subtract the weight from your sleep system I suppose), but 10F-20F it would be good for.

PostedOct 15, 2013 at 10:53 pm

I'd 2nd the suggestion to checkout the montbell mirage. I think thats about the most jacket you'd want to bring on the PCT, but its about as warm as it gets for that weight. While it could get as low as 10 at a high camp on your PCT, I'd go with something a little lighter, and bundle up in your sleeping bag when it gets that cold, or just start hiking in your puffy first thing in the morning. To get a jacket truly warm at 10 degrees, even your best options will weigh at least 17 oz. Personal preference, I think its better to go lighter and have a system thats better suited for the conditions %98 of the time.

Stephen M BPL Member
PostedOct 16, 2013 at 8:19 am

Check out Gooses Feet, I have one that weighs 16oz thats good to well below 0F.

jscott Blocked
PostedOct 16, 2013 at 9:39 am

I just received the Alpini hooded anorak and am very pleased (20% off the SALE price!). I'm 5'9' and 140 lbs; the large fit me perfectly (not sloppy at all but some room for layers.) The hood is fantastic; you almost have to see it to understand. 7.7 oz's 800 fill and a pretty wind resistant Pertex shell. It's toasty! And no feather leaks so far!

Paul Andronico BPL Member
PostedOct 16, 2013 at 9:42 am

I just got the hooded Alipini on sale at REI. It was in the high 20's to low 30's and windy in the Sierras on Saturday (it snowed at night and on Sunday morning), and the Alpini was super warm and exactly one pound in a large. I felt it would have been pretty warm into the teens. The hood fits great and seals nicely around your face. BPL's review didn't like the side zippers for venting, but I thought they were great for a fisherman who walks around lakes quite a bit, then stops to fish, then moves around again. At $125 bucks after using my 20% coupon, it was an absolute steal.

Matt Dirksen BPL Member
PostedOct 16, 2013 at 10:00 am

The new Golite Bitterroot has DownTek in it. I wonder if that will be a norm some day.

When I'm not wearing mine, it makes an awesome pillow.

Matt

JCH BPL Member
PostedOct 16, 2013 at 10:22 am

I have comfortably taken this down to the upper 20s combined with 2 lightweight merino baselayers and a wind shirt.
Also works great for extending the range of a sleeping bag. Super high quality construction and fit. 10 oz in XL.
Recommended.

Dale Wambaugh BPL Member
PostedOct 16, 2013 at 10:40 am

You have it right: the thin down garments aren't much good for other than a chilly summer morning; likewise the synthetic jackets with wisp of insulation. A high loft fleece and a windshirt will deliver as much or more warmth.

That brooks range alpini looks like a deal.

Dustin Short BPL Member
PostedOct 16, 2013 at 12:23 pm

It may be chilly on the PCT at elevation, but a 10-20F appropriate jacket seems overkill to carry on those few chilly mornings when most of the time it will be sitting in your pack as dead weight. If you do want the extra weight though I agree with the Montbell Mirage recommendation. 900 fp, 5.3oz fill and box baffling for around the 13oz mark is hard to match without going to custom product from the cottage folks (goosefeet could probably match and tailor to your needs). It's pricey but hard to beat for warmth and weight. Otherwise any other hooded down in the 13oz range with 3 to 5oz of down would probably work. Look at a GoLite bitterroot or the Patagonia Down hoodies (UL or regular).

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