soto windmaster

I bought one and didn't like that the pot support comes off and is a second piece …. which didn't make sense to me and it takes up more space than my OD1-R ….. it may have some wind advantages, but it went back a day after I bought it …. wasn't impressed …..

Leave pot support on?

I agree, if you have to take off pot support that's a negative

To fold the pot support into a flat piece, it has to be taken off … which means you now have two pieces which are bigger, take up more space and little to no benefit apart from the ability to by the optional larger pot support … I think that was their goal with the removable pot support, to give an option to change out the support for an optional larger one, but imo, that misses the mark for most unless you're a large group cooking with large pots ….

I have the ODR1 as well with the optional/removable windscreen. If this is truly more wind resistant then I may trade up for a lighter/smaller system since I won't be using the windscreen anymore.

Anyone use one of these in the wind?

Small arms fit in 900 ml pot without removing them

Big arms fold so they actually take less room

Maybe the optional larger arms are intended to sell more stuff by having accesories

Maybe the Windmaster is equivalent to adding that windscreen to the OD-1R. How does that work in the wind?

"Maybe the Windmaster is equivalent to adding that windscreen to the OD-1R. How does that work in the wind?"

Pretty good overall. It's been almost a year since I tested it with/without the windscreen but I found an increase in fuel efficiency when I used it even with no wind. Not enough data to compare so it's just anecdotal but good enough for my purposes. It's possible that my fuel savings with the windscreen doesn't justify the added weight; I don't use canister stoves all that often so I haven't been all that motivated to run any more tests to make that determination. For its intended purpose, the windscreen really helps in the wind.

Putting the windscreen on the ODR1 is a bit kludgy. Not a big deal but you have to juggle it while bringing the pot stand arms up. I like to keep my canister and stove in my SP700 pot but the windscreen adds enough that the lid doesn't sit on it properly. That has become a non-issue for me as I've thrown the lid away and have replaced it with foil.

The small stand for the wind master has a clip (visible in the picture you shared) on it so I'm wondering if it will fold in half?

"The small stand for the wind master has a clip (visible in the picture you shared) on it so I'm wondering if it will fold in half?"

The arms are just one piece of metal, folded in half.

They are spring loaded onto the stove:

Like Trace said, if you remove it then it's just a piece to lose, but it fits into 900 ml stove

Those are pictures from website

My experience in the field is that the windscreen for the OD-1R is very effective, both in the wind, and even w/o wind. I actually ran a test at home and came up withe the following figures (no wind, ambient temperature 71 deg .75 L cold tap water, 1L REI (Evernew) Ti pot. take with a grain of salt, only one run on each.

Time to boil w/o windscreen: 4:16
time to boil w windscreen 3:00

Maybe in 40 years it will be a classic like my Optimus 8/8R's that sometimes come with missing parts. :)
Duane

I just used it on a 7 day backpack/climbing trip. There was a lot of wind and rain. It is NOT wind PROOF. But it is less affected by wind than the previous model. I still use a home made windscreen with it. It seems to be less prone to wind and more fuel efficient than the previous model. The pot support is easy to put on and off; easier than fiddling with the previous model's pot support arms that were a bit quirky. However, there is a concern that the removable pot holder could be dropped into a crack or lost… That is the only downside that I could find. I would also say that the new pot support (the small one that comes with the new stove) is more stable than the fold out arms of the previous model. In all, I think the new model is a significant improvement over the previous mode.

For a thorough review of the WindMaster stove go to:

http://www.trailgroove.com/issue8.html?autoflip=59

Bill D.