Anybody not Seam Seal their silnylon shelters?
I guess I'm partially asking out of laziness and also not wanting to make a mess of my new Oware mid.
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Anybody not Seam Seal their silnylon shelters?
I guess I'm partially asking out of laziness and also not wanting to make a mess of my new Oware mid.
me.
Hmmm, I guess I didn't know that NOT seam sealing cottage sil shelters was an option.
I'm far less worried about flat-felled seams. They're pretty good about keeping the water out. Though, I've seen a few small leaks in persistent rain, but nothing that couldn't be managed.
It's the overlap or single seams (like the TarpTent Rainbow ridgeline–I think I named those seams right) that have leaked profusely without sealing for me. And that was just with a water sprinkler.
I cant say for sure that yours would leak or not, but I can say from experience that its no fun getting out of a tent in a thunderstorm and fashioning a rainfly out of a Space Blanket because your tent is leaking on you through a seam.
I have three DIY silnylon tarp/tarptents, one of them isn't seam sealed. I've been through a few long rainy nights in it and had no leaks. It's a simple ridgeline tarp, made with a felled seam.
That said, it's really pretty simple to seam seal a shelter. I use an "acid brush" from plumbing supplies and thin the sealant enough so that it's still thick but "brushable." I'm not particularly careful and manage not to "make a mess".
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-Acid-Brushes-3-Pack-3071020/100204365
I did it. Henry's Tarptent method, went to Lowes this morning, GE Silicone II and some pain thinner. A cold front has swept thru North Texas and the temps have been in the high 80's for the last few days. I sealed my Oware mid inside and out.
I've used a tent flys similar to the one shown in my avatar for about 35 years. I've never seam sealed any of them and leakage has not been a problem.
I think the design of a tent makes a difference. Steep sloping rain flys and flat felled seams can obviate the need for seam sealing.
Other designs and seams need seam sealing.
A few drops will never hurt anyone imo.
Where are you in the metroplex Christopher? I'm located up NE of McKinney.
I have a couple of hammock flys from Warbonnet Outdoors and he says there is no need to seal the ridge line. So there are definitely times and seams that don't need to be sealed as others have said.
Thanks,
James
"A few drops will never hurt anyone imo."
Uh, well I guess you have never backpacked in the winter on Vancouver Island then.
I never seal my DIY tents
Pyramid so they have steep walls. Flat felled seams. I have used them in lots of rain in PNW. I camp in winter. Cheap silnylon that's not very waterproof.
Occasionally, in heavy rain, I'll feel a little "misting" which is enough to feel on skin but not enough to get things wet. I could seal with 10 or 20:1 mineral spirits:silicone, but I'm too lazy for not enough gain.
I have a couple velcro strips to hold open door. When I don't seal these, water will leak through and drip onto whatever's below, so I seal thos spots.
Not seam sealing is for the lazy folk.
I'm pretty lazy
and proud of it
especially about tasks that produce no benefit : )
Seam sealing.I believe it makes the seams and pull outs stronger. I believe it helps if a thread gets cut or a stitch is not locked not to have the seam come apart as fast if at all it kinda locks the stitch Its really a fast and easy thing to do once you get the hang of it. I'm a believer in silicone and mineral spirits and small foam brushes. I believe in thread drift if its meant to be helpful. From the book of Mark "The man who seals his seams has no fears as the storm rolls in in the mountains" Hallelujah
When Mark wrote about storms rolling in to the mountains was he specifically referring to the mountains or did that also apply to hills or say bumps on the ground that are not as big as hills but not all that flat either ?

"Not seam sealing is for the lazy folk."
I guess that makes Jerry the first lazy MYOG'er. :)
I have two Hilleberg tents and have never seam sealed either of them. I believe their web site states that seam sealing is not required. Frankly that was a little of the reason I purchased from Hilleberg. I have always wondered why their tents don't have to be seam sealed but most others do.
"I guess that makes Jerry the first lazy MYOG'er. :)"
LOL
I normally don't seam seal my tarps. I made recently 2 tarps from "shield" sillnylon and the ridge seams leaked badly. I like the fabric so will stop being lazy and seal them but this hasn't been my typical experience.
-Tim
I did seam seal my Tarp Tent scarp and it never leaked but I did a really messy job, it looked like a dog did it.
I have yet to do my Stratosphire 1, I must get off my ass and do it the fancy way with diluted mineral spirits. I bought my Trailstar used and the guy who sealed it must be the neatest person on the planet as it looks perfect.
you can use masking tape to make it neat
but why bother?
Good idea.
I have several Golite shelters (Hex 3, SL2, SL4) and I've never seam sealed them.
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