Jul 1, 2013 at 10:17 am #1304827
Anybody not Seam Seal their silnylon shelters?
I guess I'm partially asking out of laziness and also not wanting to make a mess of my new Oware mid.Jul 1, 2013 at 10:24 am #2001330
me.Jul 1, 2013 at 10:37 am #2001335
@ctufankjianLocale: New Hampshire
Hmmm, I guess I didn't know that NOT seam sealing cottage sil shelters was an option.Jul 1, 2013 at 10:40 am #2001336
@glacierramblerLocale: NW Montana
I'm far less worried about flat-felled seams. They're pretty good about keeping the water out. Though, I've seen a few small leaks in persistent rain, but nothing that couldn't be managed.
It's the overlap or single seams (like the TarpTent Rainbow ridgeline–I think I named those seams right) that have leaked profusely without sealing for me. And that was just with a water sprinkler.Jul 1, 2013 at 10:55 am #2001340
@dafiremedicLocale: Southern California
I cant say for sure that yours would leak or not, but I can say from experience that its no fun getting out of a tent in a thunderstorm and fashioning a rainfly out of a Space Blanket because your tent is leaking on you through a seam.Jul 1, 2013 at 11:30 am #2001352
@detroittigerfanLocale: Ann Arbor
I have three DIY silnylon tarp/tarptents, one of them isn't seam sealed. I've been through a few long rainy nights in it and had no leaks. It's a simple ridgeline tarp, made with a felled seam.
That said, it's really pretty simple to seam seal a shelter. I use an "acid brush" from plumbing supplies and thin the sealant enough so that it's still thick but "brushable." I'm not particularly careful and manage not to "make a mess".
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-Acid-Brushes-3-Pack-3071020/100204365Jul 2, 2013 at 1:16 pm #2001762
I did it. Henry's Tarptent method, went to Lowes this morning, GE Silicone II and some pain thinner. A cold front has swept thru North Texas and the temps have been in the high 80's for the last few days. I sealed my Oware mid inside and out.Jul 2, 2013 at 5:39 pm #2001852
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@lyrad1Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth
I've used a tent flys similar to the one shown in my avatar for about 35 years. I've never seam sealed any of them and leakage has not been a problem.
I think the design of a tent makes a difference. Steep sloping rain flys and flat felled seams can obviate the need for seam sealing.
Other designs and seams need seam sealing.Jul 2, 2013 at 6:04 pm #2001858
@m-lLocale: W-Never Eat Soggy (W)affles
A few drops will never hurt anyone imo.Jul 2, 2013 at 7:36 pm #2001890
Where are you in the metroplex Christopher? I'm located up NE of McKinney.Jul 2, 2013 at 8:00 pm #2001898
@jdegraafLocale: Bay Area
I have a couple of hammock flys from Warbonnet Outdoors and he says there is no need to seal the ridge line. So there are definitely times and seams that don't need to be sealed as others have said.
JamesJul 4, 2013 at 12:23 pm #2002447
"A few drops will never hurt anyone imo."
Uh, well I guess you have never backpacked in the winter on Vancouver Island then.Jul 4, 2013 at 12:37 pm #2002452
I never seal my DIY tents
Pyramid so they have steep walls. Flat felled seams. I have used them in lots of rain in PNW. I camp in winter. Cheap silnylon that's not very waterproof.
Occasionally, in heavy rain, I'll feel a little "misting" which is enough to feel on skin but not enough to get things wet. I could seal with 10 or 20:1 mineral spirits:silicone, but I'm too lazy for not enough gain.
I have a couple velcro strips to hold open door. When I don't seal these, water will leak through and drip onto whatever's below, so I seal thos spots.Jul 4, 2013 at 12:52 pm #2002463
Not seam sealing is for the lazy folk.Jul 4, 2013 at 1:02 pm #2002467
I'm pretty lazy
and proud of it
especially about tasks that produce no benefit : )Jul 4, 2013 at 1:07 pm #2002469
Seam sealing.I believe it makes the seams and pull outs stronger. I believe it helps if a thread gets cut or a stitch is not locked not to have the seam come apart as fast if at all it kinda locks the stitch Its really a fast and easy thing to do once you get the hang of it. I'm a believer in silicone and mineral spirits and small foam brushes. I believe in thread drift if its meant to be helpful. From the book of Mark "The man who seals his seams has no fears as the storm rolls in in the mountains" HallelujahJul 4, 2013 at 3:45 pm #2002534
When Mark wrote about storms rolling in to the mountains was he specifically referring to the mountains or did that also apply to hills or say bumps on the ground that are not as big as hills but not all that flat either ?Jul 5, 2013 at 9:46 pm #2002910
"Not seam sealing is for the lazy folk."
I guess that makes Jerry the first lazy MYOG'er. :)Jul 5, 2013 at 10:00 pm #2002916
I have two Hilleberg tents and have never seam sealed either of them. I believe their web site states that seam sealing is not required. Frankly that was a little of the reason I purchased from Hilleberg. I have always wondered why their tents don't have to be seam sealed but most others do.Jul 5, 2013 at 10:09 pm #2002918
"I guess that makes Jerry the first lazy MYOG'er. :)"
LOLJul 7, 2013 at 9:42 pm #2003601
I normally don't seam seal my tarps. I made recently 2 tarps from "shield" sillnylon and the ridge seams leaked badly. I like the fabric so will stop being lazy and seal them but this hasn't been my typical experience.
-TimJul 8, 2013 at 5:55 am #2003649
I did seam seal my Tarp Tent scarp and it never leaked but I did a really messy job, it looked like a dog did it.
I have yet to do my Stratosphire 1, I must get off my ass and do it the fancy way with diluted mineral spirits. I bought my Trailstar used and the guy who sealed it must be the neatest person on the planet as it looks perfect.Jul 8, 2013 at 6:45 am #2003659
you can use masking tape to make it neat
but why bother?Jul 8, 2013 at 6:54 am #2003662
Good idea.Jul 8, 2013 at 6:57 am #2003663
@dangLocale: Pacific Northwet
I have several Golite shelters (Hex 3, SL2, SL4) and I've never seam sealed them.
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