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layering sleeping bags?

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PostedMay 25, 2007 at 3:16 pm

I'm wanting to do Denali next on my list and looking to buy cold weather gear. I own a Western mountaineering highlite 35degree bag which I love at 15ounces. REI sells a nice -20d down bag for around $300 and with 20% off is very reasonable.

However, I doubt I'll ever use the -20d bag again unless I do everest and in that case I'll need a -40d bag. Do people on everest ever double up and layer sleeping bags and using my 35degree bag inside the -20d bag a reasonable replacement for a -40degree bag? Of course, if I buy a -40degree bag, after my everest trip, I'll probably never use it again so seems a waste of $600-800.

Is it relatively inexpensive to rent -20d or -40d sleeping bags for several weeks for an expedition?

Jeff Cadorin BPL Member
PostedMay 25, 2007 at 3:25 pm

My brother is off for Denali in a few weeks. He purchased the bison bag with extra fill for $800 I believe. But he loves mountaineering and climbs all the time so it was justified to him. Whats funny is he recognized that he will never need the huge down jacket that he wants to bring for this trip ever again, unless everest or k2 come into play. He has decided to rent the jacket from the company he is climbing with. Its all a personal choice but if you only plan on climbing denali now and possibly everest later, i would rent. Besides if you decide to do everest you will have probably won the lottery or invested your money well so you can splurge then

Jason Brinkman BPL Member
PostedMay 25, 2007 at 3:34 pm

I find it hard to believe that your Highlite would fit inside the -20 degree REI bag without squishing the loft in one or both. Since loft is basically proportional to warmth, you wouldn't see the full temperature benefit if it's squished.

Some manufacturers make overbags that are expressly designed for adding warmth to another bag. A custom built quilt could serve the same purpose. HOWEVER, I personally wouldn't feel good about a double bag option on Denali. Maybe some with more experience would. I have seen -40 degree bags in gear lists for Denali, so some people apparently think that's the way to go.

PostedMay 26, 2007 at 5:49 am

Henry, I have tried layering my two Montbell Super Stretch down bags, and due to their unique circumfrential baffles, they fit inside each other with minimal compression. I believe combining the fill weights to estimate the temperature rating of the resulting two bag combo would be accurate; for example a #3 inside a #1 might get you to a low temp of -40; while still having a three and a light four season bag in your gear closet.
Id hate to be the one to test out this theory down at -40.. but I can vouch that even a #7 can be used at 25F with some layering.

PostedMay 28, 2007 at 12:57 pm

Using a two bag combo for extreme cold is a well accepted tactic for climbers. I know a few who use that system for extreme cold, but I don't use that system personally.

Mind you, dediacted alpinists have been climbing himalayan peaks with 0F bags for decades, so keep an open mind about what is necessary for succes if you're willing to compromise on confort.

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