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Why No Verticle Baffle Quilts?

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PostedJun 18, 2013 at 6:57 pm

I recently bought a Stoic Somnus SZ 15 which has verticle baffles in an attempt to control down shifting while tossing and turning. I have no evidence that these baffles are an improvement as of yet, since it is too warm to use it. I think it weighs 1lb 15 oz, not 100% sure though. 19oz of down.

Is there any particular reason why the cottage manufacturers havent made any verticle baffle quilts? Is there a market for them?

Tim at EE reduced his baffle spacing because of complaints of down shifting. I have read a couple posts in here about Zpacks down shifting.

Perhaps I will discover that verticle baffles are just as prone to down shifting as horizontal ones…. at least it will still be on top of me though.

I highly doubt it, although I am very confident of course because I have a financial interest in being right and justifying my purchase.

J-L BPL Member
PostedJun 18, 2013 at 7:03 pm

GooseFeet's quilts use vertical baffles. I have about a dozen nights with mine – so far so good! I find the down shifts when stuffing it away but stays in place overnight just fine.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedJun 18, 2013 at 7:05 pm

"Tim at EE reduced his baffle spacing because of complaints of down shifting"

My theory is your baffle spacing should be twice the loft. If it's more you'll get more unwanted down shifting. Of course it also depends on the amount of over-stuff, but I think that reduces you're efficiency a little.

I haven't heard anyone else's opinion though.

Andy Duncan BPL Member
PostedJun 19, 2013 at 9:48 am

I noticed the same down shifting problem. There have been a few times when I have been woken up in the middle of the night because my toes or torso are freezing, even when using a quilt with a rating that is well within the temperature outside. The cause has always been due to the down shifting to the sides, leaving large uninsulated cold spots. The quilts have tightly spaced horizontal baffles.

I finally added a few vertical baffles to the toe box of my winter quilt. It solved the problem.

I recently made a quilt with a combination of horizontal and vertical baffles throughout. If you're interested there is a post in the myog forums with more info.

I think the reason quilts with horizontal and vertical baffles, other than Karo quilts (which have a much different baffle system), are not readily available from cottage manufacturers is due to the extensive amount of detail work required to add vertical baffles. I don't think the extra cost would be recovered in the market. I'm just an amateur but it took 4 times longer to make a quilt with horizontal and vertical baffles throughout versus the quilts I've made with just horizontal baffles.

PostedJun 19, 2013 at 10:07 am

I already talked to Tim about a year ago about making me a vertical bale quilt, he didn't seem interested in it at all. Hopefully someone can make one.

PostedJun 20, 2013 at 3:40 am

I have beta-tested some bags that use the Insotect Flow system.

Flowhttp://www.insotect.com/insotectflow.php

I don't know that it really works that well. Manufacturers like to believe it does so they can use less down.

Personally I like being able to fine-tune my quilts by adjusting the fill when desired.

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