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Jun 13, 2013 at 12:48 pm #1996320
Tipi said: "But why try to explain it when a single pic will do—"
I wish you'd stuck with just explaining it…
Jun 13, 2013 at 12:59 pm #1996323Tipi….. dude….. wow!
Jun 13, 2013 at 1:02 pm #1996325No sh*t. I mean….
Jun 13, 2013 at 1:02 pm #1996327Yeah… I think I pasted the wrong link. Oops.
Jun 13, 2013 at 1:05 pm #1996328The moderators can delete that pic if they want, I was just responding to Kate's post; and we all know what turd piles look like. I actually held back from posting more from my "photo turd archive" but over the years I have seen stupendous examples of Turds Left Behind and Loads In Bad Places. Point is, never underestimate the stupidity of humans and never assume a water source is wonderfully pristine.
Jun 13, 2013 at 1:08 pm #1996330"The moderators can delete that pic if they want.."
Man I hope not! That $%!+ had me in tears laughing!
I think Chaff needs a subcategory for surface bomb pics.
Edit: "Photo turd archive" LMAO!
Jun 13, 2013 at 1:08 pm #1996332I have a SteriPen, a Sawyer in-line, and I always carry a few individually wrapped tablets as a back up. The Sawyer (IMO) is by far the best combination of convenience, sustainability, cost effectiveness, and reliablility, and the weight difference is negligable. So what did I take on the JMT last year????
SteriPen
Why? The water is the Sierras is arguably the most refreshing in the world, and the SteriPen is the only one of the options mentioned (other than not treating) that does not affect the taste of the water. It may seem silly to some, but to us it was one of the simple pleasures of the trip. I wouldn't have thought that the Sawyer would affect the taste, but it does. For the local mountains and such, I use the Sawyer.
Jun 13, 2013 at 1:18 pm #1996336Sorry but I can't get rid of this image of you standing over random steamers in the woods and taking pictures! Funny funny stuff right there! Seriously made my day.
Jun 13, 2013 at 1:27 pm #1996338Hopefully, he doesn't find random steamers too often.
I have a picture (and video, believe it or not) of someones waste-laden tissue left at the bank of Cathedral lake. I ended up packing it to Tuolomne for the inconsiderate squatter. So yes, water needs to be treated.
Jun 13, 2013 at 1:34 pm #1996340First I filter, then add aquamira, boil and treat with Uv :-)
Jun 13, 2013 at 1:52 pm #1996345@ Stephen M
Classic! The belt and suspenders approach.
Jun 13, 2013 at 2:01 pm #1996351Nico,
I get my buddy to carry all that for me also.
Jun 13, 2013 at 2:05 pm #1996353Just razzin' on you Tipi. But I agree, your poop is well taken, um I mean your point.
"never underestimate the stupidity of humans and never assume a water source is wonderfully pristine." Absolutely.
One thing I see a lot in the N. Ga mountains are streams that run underground and then re-appear downhill. Many novice hikers see the water coming out of the ground and think it's a spring and then further think a spring means it's clean/pure, when in fact it might just be a stream that went underground for a bit but has a dead possum half in the water uphill…
Jun 13, 2013 at 2:41 pm #1996362CDC is a government agencies and government agencies tend to: 1 play things on the safe side and 2 are usually the last to acknowledge change. But recent testing has proved that 99% of harmful bacteria and protozoa are killed before water has reached boiling……
I looked it up a while ago and will not post any links. If you dont believe me thats fine that doesnt make me wrong…I'm sure if Dave wants he could explain it and provide numerous links to this fact but i dont care enough. lol
Also, I am sure the chlorine thing could be proven safe as well as the well water can be proven harmful. but I chose not to do the research just to prove someone wrong that I dont care about and wont change their mind anyway.
Yes chorine is poison- stop swimming in pools and dont drink the water in restaurants or from any other source that isnt a puddle in the ground and you will survive the Chlorining poisoning of 2013.
Jun 13, 2013 at 5:09 pm #1996410"…but I chose not to do the research just to prove someone wrong that I dont care about and wont change their mind anyway."
Point taken. I had those links, and the pic, already stored on my computer though. You and I may not care but there might be others who do.
Aug 4, 2013 at 10:38 pm #2012470Maybe this has been mentioned earlier, but I like the Sawyer because, of all the treatment methods I've tried, it tastes the best. As a highly efficient filter, it can remove subtle organic decay products which, while not toxic, can give water a slightly funky quality.
Aug 5, 2013 at 4:37 am #2012486"Iodine requires about 30 minutes of time to kill everything in your bottle."
this might be the case for say at 20degrees celcius but certainly not for say zero degrees celcius. the colder it is the longer is needed for bacteria and viruses to be killed.
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