May 20, 2013 at 8:02 am #1303131
I'm considering the purchase of a Houdini and have a question about sizing. I am 5'10", 165lbs and usually wear a size large shirt/jacket.I would be using this as a mid windshirt as well as a shell over a bulky fleece when conditions dictate. Should I size up to an XL and if so would I then feel like I am wearing a tarp when used as a mid over a lightweight base layer?May 20, 2013 at 9:38 am #1987881
Bob BankheadBPL Member
@wandering_bobLocale: Oregon, USA
Sizes are not always the same for each manufacturer (Montbell comes to mind). Here's what I do for situations like yours.
Find a store that carries the item desired.
Wear – or carry – the different layers that will be involved.
At the store, mix and match accordingly.
Purchase the size you need.
I'm 5'9 and 190 lbs. My large Houdini works fine over a base layer – even a 260 weight merino. Only you know which combination is the more common when you hike; base + WS or fleece + WS.
Depending on how "bulky" your fleece layer is, I suspect you'll want to go up to an XL so as to not risk compressing the insulation. If that means you'll flap a bit with just a base layer, that's the price you have to pay for the thermal efficiency with the heavier fleece.May 20, 2013 at 10:53 am #1987923
Steve KBPL Member
@skomaeLocale: northeastern US
I have both the 2012 and 2013 Houdini in medium. I am 5'11 190#. In Patagonia and other well-tailored brands I wear a medium, but I wear a large on other simpler patterned clothes.
The old 2012 Houdini in Medium fits great with a R1. A light synthetic puff vest fits underneath as well, but snugly. The new 2013 Houdini in Medium fits great with a t-shirt. Definitely will not fit an R1 as it is snug across my chest. Large fits decently, and I'd guess would layer fine with a 200wt fleece, depending on the cut of the fleece.May 20, 2013 at 1:27 pm #1987997
Thank you both for the input. I don't live close to a retailer that carries the Houdini so I'm counting on experience from those who have owned this particular jacket. I dislike returning ordered items so thought I would get some feedback before making a decision.
CheersMay 20, 2013 at 1:37 pm #1988000
Hamish McHamishBPL Member
For Patagonia jackets I wear a Large for the normal fit and an XL for the slim fit. I had to get the Houdini in an XXL to have any room for an insulating layer. The XL was too snug when worn over a 100-weight fleece pullover.May 20, 2013 at 2:30 pm #1988025
6'1" and 190. I layer a large over a base and mid layer. It is snug but comfortable. I don't like baggy since I run in it too. On the other hand I sized up to an XL for my waterproof.May 23, 2013 at 10:48 pm #1989334
Chris ChandlerBPL Member
@chandler325iLocale: lost angeles
I'd be interested to hear more comparisons of the 2012 vs 2013. Don't want to hijack this thread but wasn't able to PM youMay 24, 2013 at 4:09 am #1989354
Richard RenoBPL Member
@scubahhhLocale: White Mountains, mostly.
…and return whichever doesn't fit?
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