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It’s…Alive! My weird hybrid quilt monster. (please, no pics, you will frighten it)

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PostedApr 11, 2013 at 11:00 pm

So awhile back, i finished my quilt experiment using Angora Rabbit fur mixed with Down/Feathers. Ah, the icing on the top was a layer of 2.5 oz Climashield Apex on the bottom. Trying to mix the Angora Rabbit fur with the Down/Feathers was…umm…"interesting" to say the least and thank goodness i had the foresight to do it in the gar-rahghah (as my Grandpappy says).

Turns out i created a monster though. Total weight of quilt is 2lbs and 10 oz. Yeah, ouch..indeed. At least it's a very warm, cuddly monster. Apparently the nice Angora Rabbit farmer lady gave me quite a bit more than the lb i was expecting and ordered. I didn't bother to weigh it before hand.

Since this was an experiment, i ended up going with the cheapest Down/Feather source i could find. This ended up being a package of two large and well stuffed pillows that i found at Costco for 49 bucks. The fill of course was very low quality, though in a way better than some other. 550 fp Gray Duck down certified "American" (read most likely Canadian, which, eh, is a plus to me, better than Chinese sourced stuff–shay shay you very much).

Flying, at super sonic speeds nonetheless, in the face of convention, the quilt is NON QUILTED OR BAFFLED, yes you did see that right, thine small orbs of visual perception hath not deceived you. But it works somehow. Somehow, with the combination of the friction between the Apex and the Angora, helps to create a structure of sorts for the Down/Feathers so it sort of semi stabilizes. No, not ideal and any "sane" man would have quilted/baffled it, but large things and me sewing don't go so well together so far.

Baffled? Well, i'm not and neither is the quilt monster. Unfortunately, testing it has turned out to be a bit of a problem. It's been in the high 80's, low 90's recently, and Winter seems to be officially gone. I will do a tribal dance for the bitter cold, but i'm not holding my breath.

PostedApr 12, 2013 at 8:20 am

Looking forward to your testing.

I've wanted to make an unbaffled quilt just to see how it works. I hate to assume something is required (like baffles) without testing it.

Perhaps baffles are just a luxury or convenience but not really required. Does the pika have baffles in the pile of debris he/she sleeps under? No.

PostedApr 12, 2013 at 9:39 am

Hi Daryl,

I do think it's important, helpful, and probably necessary if you're using just Goose or Duck down, especially if it's high quality, hi F.P. stuff because the stuff is just so light, airy, etc. If you really over stuffed such a quilt or bag, then perhaps you may not need it so much quilting or baffles…??… but ouch, mucho dinero.

But in this, unique case of mixing Angora rabbit fur, Climashield Apex, and lower quality Down with a 25% feather ratio, there is just more innate friction that happens. Take Angora rabbit fur itself and by itself. It has a tendency to matt and felt together. I tried to mix it with the Duck Down/feather stuff to reduce that some, i also sprayed it with some Techron DWR spray a little while before mixing it..

Then the Apex being polyester, has quite a bit of innate "static cling", and that with the fibrous matted surface, helps to hold onto the Down, and especially to the Angora, which also provides some extra support/structure for the down.

Besides the weight issue of the quilt monster, it also has the disadvantage of not being very packable, especially not compared to a high quality down, or even a low quality down bag or quilt.

I wish i lived in a much colder climate, at least temporarily :(

Thank you for the reply and interest Daryl, you and i, i suspect are kindred spirits in some ways.

PostedApr 13, 2013 at 9:19 am

I had for a while an baffled down comforter.[1] It required regular shaking to get the down even approximately evenly distributed, daily, sometimes in the middle of the night. Hard to do with a queen sized comforter. You might manage more easily with a smaller quilt, but in the confined space of a tent or tarp, it'd be hard.

[1] it was defective, it had simple top layer sewn to bottom layer baffles, which had the stitching fail. In retrospect, I should have hadded them.

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