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PostedApr 7, 2013 at 11:15 pm

Do you guys ever carry one? Maybe on a certain kind of trip, like in winter where not having a stove would mean more than just going a little hungry, or on an extended trip, where you really need to eat every last ounce of what you brought?

I've been contemplating this since I had a remote canister stove fail on me about a year ago in full-on winter conditions in Colorado in March. I made it through the rest of a week's snow camping, but could have done without that complication!

That said, I'm trying to figure out the best one-size-fits-all option for a backup. My immediate intuition was esbit or some kind of solid fuel, but I don't like this because I often take trips where I'm flying somewhere and the solid fuel can't go on a plane. And solid fuel really wouldn't do much good for snow melting duties.

I also considered a backup canister stove, but in winter I like to use a liquid fuel stove, and I can't see taking all of the redundant stove equipment for a canister as well. Of course, if I am already using a compact canister stove for a non-winter trip, a second,small, pocket rocket type stove would seem like a good bet for a backup.

Another option that seems attractive would be a wood-burning Bushbuddy-type stove. I know they're slow and ponderous and finnicky, but from what I could tell it could still melt snow moderately well, and even if wet wood keeps me from building a fire in the short term, odds are on a longer trip it would probably be serviceable more often than not. A little heavy but also straightforward in operation. Never worry about having the right parts, maintenance, etc., just stick it in your pack and you know you have everything you need for your backup.

What do you guys think?

Pete Staehling BPL Member
PostedApr 8, 2013 at 4:56 am

I never have on backpacking trips, but have on bicycle tours. The reason was that I was unsure about availability of fuel types. If I take my canister stove, taking the pop can stove and pot stand only adds 0.5 ounces since they both use the same windscreen and pot.

On one trip I was glad I didn't rely solely on the canister stove since it was day nineteen before we first saw a canister for sale while alcohol was available from day one. On another bike tour there was a 1000 mile stretch with no canisters. Granted that was a number of years ago and they are probably more available now. I fly to my bike tours so I have to rely on finding fuel for sale there. If I expect to use the alcohol stove I do not ever take a spare. Anywhere you can find a can you can improvise a crude stove. It might not be as nice as the one I start with, but the only way I see the need popping up is if I lose my stove since there just isn't much that can go wrong with it.

For backpacking I am unlikely to ever take a spare stove. I really do not see any way my alcohol stove will fail, but if it did I could manage by eating cold food or if allowable cooking on a fire. Things like ramen noodles, dried refried beans, dried or freeze dried veggies, and boxed potato dishes can be eaten without cooking after re hydrating.

PostedApr 8, 2013 at 9:38 am

I frequently take some Esbit tabs as both stove backup and fire starter. For winter, I figure on fire as stove backup, using the Esbit only to help start wet wood.

PostedApr 8, 2013 at 12:08 pm

I carry backup fuel, Hexamine tablets in particular. I've only had to use them twice in 30 years, but their weight and volume justified themselves handily.

PostedApr 8, 2013 at 12:25 pm

The absolute minimum stove I can take is the BPL 3 legged folding ESBIT tab holder.

Of course I've had to replace the damn breakable leg rivets with tiny stainless screws, lock washers and nuts to get it to be reliable beyond a one-time use.

PostedApr 9, 2013 at 2:15 pm

That's helpful, thanks guys. What I take from this is that it's hard to recommend a single best option. I do like the option for a superlight canister stove like the fire maple, but like I said, I still like to use liquid fuel stoves in the dead of winter or rough and variable conditions, and that would mean I'd have to carry a whole separate canister for backup fuel as well.

I'd only carry a backup in the event that being able to heat water or snow is a safety and/or very basic comfort issue (i.e., on long trips). Fuel tablets also seem like a good, cheap option. Even if you have to ditch them on those trips where you're flying in and out, they're usually so cheap that it's not a big deal. Only problem there is counting on buying it at the start of the trip if you're flying somewhere remote without many camping supplies.

Bill

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