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PostedMar 30, 2013 at 4:10 pm

Sorry for another post today…um, happy Saturday?

Going on a 3-night trip to SNP at the end of April and I'm planning my clothes out. Can someone check my logic here?

Top
– short sleeve Cap 1 t-shirt
– long sleeve generic Jockey "active" shirt (whatever the synthetic stuff is, I use it for Frisbee and running too)
– Patagonia R2 Fleece
– Froggtoggs Jacket

Bottom
– 1 pair of REI travel underwear
– Patagonia running shorts (has a liner)
– Basic Columbia hiking pants (no zip off)
– Froggtoggs Pants

– 1 light pair of hiking socks and 1 heavier pair (for sleeping)

– I am going to be carrying a 35 Deg sleeping bag and we'll be using a tent for shelter. What I need to know is are some of these items redundant? Also, should I include my Driclime Windshirt, and my WP/B eVent shell? I wanted to try the FroggToggs out this time. They'll be new but I have experience with all of the other layers. I'm trying to be prepared for a variety of weather. It should be warm by then but I want to be able to hand frost if it happens. I tend to run hot, and when I get going hiking wise I will probably just be in the Cap 1 or Jockey shirt. thanks!

PostedMar 30, 2013 at 4:10 pm

I need a logic check because this is my first time on a trip trying to apply my new UL principles (ie not packing my entire closet)

Steven Paris BPL Member
PostedMar 30, 2013 at 4:43 pm

My 2cents: Once a reliable forecast for that weekend/week is available, you'll want to know the lowest possible temperature and whether you'll see rain. If it's just low 40s + above, I think your list will be fine.

TOP: this sounds like a good trip to test the FroggToggs jacket for yourself and see whether it works in your system, so go for it. Worst case, you get low temps and rain and you get in the tent earlier than otherwise. I'd add a hat + gloves. As an aside, an UNLINED windshirt (like a Houdini instead of the DriClime) would pair well with the R2. Could be worn under the R2 or over. No need to get one before your trip, just putting it out there as potential addition at some point. With a windshirt like the Houdini, I'd take the FroggToggs but it might stay at the bottom of your pack, unused.

BOTTOM: I've never worn the FroggToggs pants, but you should know that there is a good chance they will rip with any contact on rock or thick bushes. You should take what works for you, but there is a little redundancy in shorts with a liner AND the underwear, especially for a 3-day trip. The running shorts can be worn under the hiking pants or FroggToggs if needed. You could go commando in camp while washing the running shorts, which should dry fast. You could "trade" the ounces of the underwear for light baselayer tights, which might prove more useful, depending on the weather.

PostedMar 30, 2013 at 9:12 pm

You would sleep much better with a pair of light polyester long john pants. They can be worn in the evening around camp.

Also for sleeping/evening wear bring a light stocking cap or light fleece "Peruvian style" hat. (OR makes a nice one.)

And, as mentioned gloves, preferably polyester fleece.

If the forecast calls for rain you'll appreciate Gore-Tex boots. Cold, wet feet are miserable. Even GTX low gaiters wont keep your feet dry W/O GTX boots/shoes.

Travis L BPL Member
PostedMar 30, 2013 at 9:25 pm

Your list seems good, provided temps hold decent.

The following is my personal experience and may differ from others:

As far as footwear, Eric is right that cold, wet feet suck. However, that doesn't mean GTX is necessarily your answer. Assuming temps above 40F, your feet should be warm while hiking, even in mesh trail runners. In camp, simply bring a set of dry, thick wool socks. If your shoes are still soaked when you get to camp, you can put on the dry socks, then some plastic baggies, then your shoes. Sure, you might accrue a bit of moisture within the baggies, but as soon as you take them off when getting into your bag, your feet will dry quickly. It's not THAT much moisture. They'll dry during the night. In the morning, you might have chilly socks (the ones you took off the previous night), but they'll warm up soon enough when hiking.

For temps below freezing, I've recently switched from GTX socks and trail runners to Keen Targhee II, and have been very happy. That goes against the UL mainstream in regards to winter footwear, but it's worked well for me in the conditions I encounter.

PostedMar 31, 2013 at 4:11 pm

thanks for all the advice. some updates…I do have a pair of REI running tights, they're sort of a light fleecey material and I was thinking about bringing them for mornings and sleep. I'd probably get too hot hiking in them but I think for those other times they'd be great.

Should have included it but I was also planning on a pair of light merino gloves (Icebreakers) and a wool/nylon beanie (the same one I wear all winter for commutes, etc.

Shoes are interesting. I have a pair of Vasque Breeze GTX's and I was just going to bring those but lately I've been reading about lighter stuff on here. My basic New Balance running shoes (forget the number) are so comfy, I am kicking around the idea of bringing those instead, assuming we don't expect rain. Not sure what I'll do yet for footwear.

PostedMar 31, 2013 at 9:46 pm

Ibex has better merino gloves. Smartwool are the worst. I love my Ibex glove liners.

Also, I bring 2 pairs of day socks and switch throughout the day.

PostedApr 1, 2013 at 5:13 am

Max, thanks but I already bought the Icebreakers and have been wearing them all winter…I was torn between them and Ibexes…can't remember why I chose Icebreakers but they've worked alright so far

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