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“Refurbishing” older BD Firstlight

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Marko Botsaris BPL Member
PostedMar 16, 2013 at 1:44 pm

Hey Folks,

I just took my Firslight (older yellow Epic material one) out of the closet where it has been carefully stowed loosely rolled up in the dark for about the last 5 years. When I bought it I carefully and correctly seam sealed it. I have done this on many tarps and by the time I got to the Firstlight I'm pretty sure I finally did a neat job of it. My original Shires Tarp Tent (which Henry actually hand delivered to me and showed be how to set up on a lawn near my workplace…LOL) is another story. Sealed, but an ugly mess.

I set the Firstlight up on my back deck. Inspection of seams still looks good – no peeling sealant I could see. Did a 5 minute simulation of an intense downpour with hose nozzle with special attention to the seams. Water seems to bead up as well as I remember. Nothing made it to the inside, though I understand this is not a real stress test.

My questions are: (1)Should I reseal short of actually observing a leak after all these years, or would it be safe to assume everything is still fine? How does silicon sealer age?(2) Is is there anything I should consider doing to "refurbish" it, or should it be fine (within the normal limits of what it is). My understanding is that the waterproof breathable treatment of the Epic material is something that is put on at the factory and it is not really, as such, possible to "refurbish". Using some kind of DWR treatment might even mess some things up.

Would appreciate any thoughts.

PostedMar 16, 2013 at 7:44 pm

Mark,
You did not state if you used silicone sealant for the first job. Hope so. Some folks have used PU sealers like SeamGrip for these tents and gotten very wet.

Silicone holds up very well. I used some around a bathroom shower enclosure about 5 years ago, and it still shows no sign of deterioration. That's a far cry from many other sealers.

If you used silicone, I would do no more than just brush an extremely thin bit of NAPA Permatex over the old sealant with a stiff brush or by smearing. Mixing with solvents is populat on this site, but please note that some of these solvents contain oils that will reduce the adhesion of sealants.

How the various silicone sprays affect the breathability of Epic Malibu is an open question, AFAIK. Of course, sprays like Kiwi Camp Dry out door silicone fabric spray say that they will not prevent fabric from breathing; but Epic has microscopic sized openings that might be affected by silicone's ability to attach to itself. I would not risk it unless the canopy leaks.

EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedMar 16, 2013 at 7:50 pm

I would say leave well enough alone. Five years is nothing if kept in a dark and dry place. If you still feel uncomfortable, test it out at the next downpour by all means. But for me anyway, I wouldn't mess with it. Adding another layer when none is needed just means unnecessarily decreasing breathable surface that much more. The second layer, to really cover over the first, will take up more surface area. Much better to do spot fixes where there are actual leaks.

Marko Botsaris BPL Member
PostedMar 16, 2013 at 11:05 pm

I used SilNet. BD even sent it with the tent…LOL. I did thin it a bit first.

Pretty much what I was thinking as well about any DWR sprays, etc. The First Light is what it is. Probably artificially trying to increase its water resistance, even were it possible, would mess up it breath-ability which is what makes it work great, IMHO, within its proper setting.

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