- Mar 14, 2013 at 10:07 pm #1300483
Just ordered some along with the 2013 Sawyer Squeeze. Git 'em while the gittin's hot!Mar 15, 2013 at 5:37 am #1965874Michael RayBPL Member
I think Travis meant to say Sawyer. :P
Edit: I stand corrected. I see they sell both Evernew and Sawyer (but not the new Sawyer bladders w/o the filter yet).Mar 15, 2013 at 5:40 am #1965875Jennifer MitolBPL Member
@jenmitolLocale: In my dreams....
Those super hard-to-find evernew bladders are finally in stock at MLD.Mar 15, 2013 at 5:49 am #1965877
Yep. Jennifer wins!Mar 15, 2013 at 7:04 am #1965888Max DiltheySpectator
Platypus fits with the 2013 sawyer, so I'm a little less excited than I would be otherwise. I don't know if anyone prefers Evernew over Platypus.Mar 15, 2013 at 7:14 am #1965890
@Max: did you test this yourself? So the 2013 sawyer sqeeze has different threads?Mar 15, 2013 at 7:20 am #1965892
2013 Platypus threads fit Sawyer
Sawyer Squeeze has always had the same threads
You might want to test Platypus threads when you can still return it. You could just hold the threads up to the threads of a Sawyer bag, for example, and see if they're the same.Mar 15, 2013 at 7:24 am #1965894
So Platypus changed their threads for 2013? On all the bottles, or one model specifically? I have a 2013 Saywer Squeeze and multiple Playtpus, a mix of 2009 through 2012, and all have threads that are slightly off when trying to mate with the Squeeze.Mar 15, 2013 at 7:34 am #1965897
All I know is that older Platypus threads fit and newer ones like 2009 to 2012 don't quite fit. You can screw them on but water leaks around filter a little which can get untreated water into the treated water.
I think the newest Platypus threads are back to the threads that work, but if you bought a Platypus how would you know it was the 2013 and not the 2012 version?
Like I said, you can tell just by looking so maybe this is something you should get at REI where you can look at it or return it.Mar 15, 2013 at 7:37 am #1965901JohnBPL Member
@johnnyh88Locale: The SouthWest
I'm skeptical that the 2013 Platypus bladders fit the Sawyer Squeeze. They were always close, but never the same. A picture comparing the threads would be nice.
It is funny reading through old BPL posts to see how quickly popular gear changes. A couple years ago, every one used Platys. Fast forward to today, it seems almost every one uses (or wants) Evernews.Mar 15, 2013 at 7:40 am #1965902
I understand now. Well if I'd have to buy all new Platy bags, I may as well just get some Evernew ones from MLD. Either way I'm buying new bladders. Thanks
EDIT: It's worth noting that my current system is to use a 3L platy connected to the squeeze via tube, and it works great in gravity mode as a basecamp setup. But having the filter more rigidly connected to the bladder is much more convenient when squeeze filtering, so I completely understand why people were willing to switch to the Evernew bladders.Mar 15, 2013 at 7:46 am #1965904Ron BellBPL Member
All the Plattys I have tried at first seem to fit the Sawyer Filter OK until you start moving water and then it leaks a lot- non functional. The threads are close enough to screw on but not quite a match. Dry fit test means nothing…
The Evernew fit perfectly and are the same as almost all common soda bottles.
FYI. 20% of our pre sales stock are now gone, in less than 12 hrs since we put them up, and we expect thatt to move to 80 % gone by the end of the weekend.Mar 15, 2013 at 7:51 am #1965905Casey JonesBPL Member
I wouldn't take too long to decide if you want a couple. When Gossamer Gear had them in December they didn't last but a few days if I recall correctly.
Edit: Like what Ron just said above my post.Mar 15, 2013 at 8:01 am #1965909
If I was to buy a bag right now I'de buy the Evernew from MLD
But, if those are gone, the old Sawyer bag actually works pretty good
I've used mine maybe 20 nights – maybe 3 pints per night – no problems. I squeeze gently or I just let gravity do it. And I store them flat on the inside of pack.Mar 15, 2013 at 10:05 am #1965956Marc EldridgeBPL Member
@meldLocale: The here and now.
+1 to Ron's comment.
"All the Plattys I have tried at first seem to fit the Sawyer Filter OK until you start moving water and then it leaks a lot- non functional. The threads are close enough to screw on but not quite a match. Dry fit test means nothing…"
I took the old Sawyer Squeeze bladders on a trip and had one fall off a stump onto its side and punctured. I don't know if the new ones are any stronger but I wouldn't trust them. I got in on the fall run of the Evernews and they work great and don't break with a simple fall.Mar 15, 2013 at 10:31 am #1965968Dale WambaughBPL Member
@dwambaughLocale: Pacific Northwest
If you have a good supply of platys and want to use them with the Squeeze, you can buy the hose adapter kit to fit the Sawyer for $5. The comes with male and female hose barb adapters for both ends of the filter. You could make a short adapter for squeezing or a long one for gravity filtering, so you get more height (and pressure) above the filter. Of course, the long hose would still work for squeezing.Mar 15, 2013 at 10:32 am #1965970
I wonder if the reports of Sawyer bag failures are just because more people use them?
The Evernews have not been available much so maybe less use explains no reported failures
If a bag falls off a stump and breaks, for example, maybe you can't blame the bag?Mar 15, 2013 at 11:25 am #1965990EndoftheTrailBPL Member
For those who have used both, could y'all do a compare/contrast? I've always used Platys — but them Evernews look cool too!Mar 15, 2013 at 11:30 am #1965992Dale WambaughBPL Member
@dwambaughLocale: Pacific Northwest
If I'm going to put a bladder in my pack and trust it with my other gear, let alone depend on it for my source of water, it should survive a short drop without splitting open.
A comparative bladder torture test would make an interesting article.Mar 15, 2013 at 11:34 am #1965993Mary DBPL Member
@hikinggrannyLocale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
I switched from Platypus to Evernew several years ago simply because I got tired of losing caps off the Platypus–Evernew caps have a connector holding them to the bladder, so you can't lose them. I can therefore sit here and smugly watch the frantic search for Evernew bladders.
Of course the current popularity in Evernew bladders is because their threads match the Sawyer Squeeze filter, which the newer Platypus do not.
Evernew did have its production severely interrupted by the tsunami two years ago. At some point, though, they will catch up to the demand (especially if Platypus has had sense enough to change back to standard threads) and everyone will be overstocked….
I'll never go back to Platy, though, because I like the Evernew bladders so much better. It's wonderful not to have to worry about losing a cap or mixing up the caps between "dirty" and "clean" bags in a gravity system. With the bright orange caps, the Evernew bladders are easier to find, too.Mar 15, 2013 at 12:19 pm #1966006EndoftheTrailBPL Member
It's been 2 or so years since I purchased a Platy. Did Platy change their threads? I hope not…Mar 15, 2013 at 2:53 pm #1966052Eugene SmithBPL Member
@eugeneiusLocale: Nuevo Mexico
Platy vs. Evernew?
I've used both and stuck with Evernew a few years ago for their compatibility with the Frontier Pro filter and hosing. However, durability is a moot point, neither having an "edge" over the other in terms of build quality. I've seen both explode in the same fashion. Catastrophically. That fancy little bright orange cord toggle that everyone is crazy about that keeps the cute little orange cap attached is also the achilles heel of the Evernew bladders. When you roll up the bladder numerous times and store in your pack the cord can slowly cut into the neck of the blader causing failure. This was the case for my 2L Evernew bladder which failed on a trip. Luckily I had a backup bladder as well as a Gatorade bottle (*really the best and cheapest solution for toting 1L of water IMO)
The Evernew bladders have been around for a while now. For some reason they're trending amongst the BPL circle. Me thinks it's that orange. UL'ers are suckers for orange.Mar 15, 2013 at 3:01 pm #1966055
Way to go, Killjoy. Thanks for knocking the excitement out of my first ever purchase of the Super Duper Amazing Evernew bottles that I can't enjoy a backpacking trip without.
;)Mar 15, 2013 at 5:27 pm #1966103Stephen MBPL Member
@stephen-mLocale: Way up North
Poor Travis, sounds like the grinch stole Christmas.Mar 15, 2013 at 6:21 pm #1966122idesterBPL Member
@doug-iLocale: The Cascades
"Me thinks it's that orange. UL'ers are suckers for orange."
Except Eugene. The first thing he did was dye the fancy little bright orange cord toggle a deep black…
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