A night out in the cold

"We kept poking each other and taking turns talking with one another so that everyone stayed awake.'
I guess remaining awake was the key to their survival.

"I guess remaining awake was the key to their survival."

Youth. Us old guys would be dead. Of course us old guys may have avoided going there in the first place. I would get out the ol' Swiss Army knife with saw and a fire steel and MAKE FIRE, FIRE GOOOOOD. And some boughs to sit on. I'm glad they made it.

Never did full snow caves– isn't it dangerous to seal them too tight? I recall needing a vent hole and a way to keep it clear.

I'm generally sleepy after poking ;)

You must have had to bit your tongue on that one Franco, as i understand "poke" is Aussie for something altogether different :O

(i'm not making light of the survival situation btw, i'm glad they got out safe and sound)

"full snow caves– isn't it dangerous to seal them too tight? I recall needing a vent hole and a way to keep it clear."

Generally we would put only a tiny hole near the ceiling, like an inch or two in diameter. Then put a larger hole where the door would be, down low at floor level or lower.

That way, cold air might flow out of the larger hole, and there is a tiny bit of circulation.

If you have a shovel, then you carry it inside the snow cave with you in case of overnight snow accumulation. Otherwise, if you have a ski pole, carry it inside for clearing air holes.

If you have a source of heat like a stove, then you need much much more ventilation. Generally place the stove next to the larger hole or else completely outside.

It works.

–B.G.–

in case yr too lazy to go to the full story ;)

"More than 85 per cent of the calls from overdue backcountry skiers that we (respond to) involve people that have overnighted," said Whistler SAR team manager Brad Sills, a 35-year veteran of the organization. Calls from lost parties requiring rescue usually come late in the afternoon or evening when people have exhausted all other options, but SAR is unlikely to initiate a rescue if there is little daylight left.

"Of that 85 per cent (of unprepared travellers) that we are called to assist, most have virtually no gear at all. They have the clothes on their back, a candy bar and if they are smokers they may have a lighter. Those are the people that are the most at risk of having a really poor night."

I hike alone and hopefully carry enough to say alive for 1 night.
PLB
cell phone
SOL bivy
sit pad
hand warmers and a lot of other stuff.

The issue is – if I'm hurt could I use the stuff.

I have one of those Sol bivies for Summer time but the rest of the year take a Blizzard bag and 2 person bothy along with insulated clothing.

Good point on what if you where hurt while out solo.