YAMA Stratiform 1P+ first impressions and pictures

That looks really nice. Great first look and awesome pictures!

do you have any photos ?

LOL!

Looks great Travis

Photos? Yes, I'll see if I can dig any up…. :)

It seems to be a fairly rare shelter, so I figured I'd give a bunch of angles to look at.

Dug Shelby ("Rawhide") has a good video here:

Weird. I've never seen cuben look so grey…..

It's the white snow. Has that effect on cuben.

BTW, I think the bug net will do quite finely for the lady and I.

You guys are joking right? The Stratiform is a silnylon tarp.

Not to answer for Doug, but yes, he's joking. And me too. :)

You know how dogs are trained to smell the faintest traces of drugs? Well, Doug can smell a square meter of cuben from 3.2 miles away. Or so I've heard…he's legend up in these parts.

I've heard…he's legend up in these parts.
don't know if he is a legend down our parts , but glad to know that he is a legend up yours.

Whoops, Travis, didn't notice that you were also the OP who owned the tarp! it does have beautiful lines, as Dug says in your linked video.

"don't know if he is a legend down our parts , but glad to know that he is a legend up yours."

He meant that my parts are legendary…..

"He meant that my parts are legendary….."

See the "Peeing in a bottle" thread

Nice shape but NOT my cup of tea for winter camping.

I'm selling my current TT Moment for the new Moment DW (Double Wall) and if I truly want to "tarp it" in winter I can use just the fly of the DW. But the chances of me tarping it ever again in winter are near zero.

Did your Trailstar break?

Heh, no, but this probably will replace the Echo I system I have.

I was just pulling your chain :)

I know :)

Travis – would be interested in knowing what you like and or dislike about the Echo 1. They seam similar apart from the fabric. Thanks,

The Echo I is really a great shelter. Very well made, durable, well designed, and cool looking.

Ultimately it comes down to size. The Echo I tarp is just small for my liking. If pitched low to shed more wind, there is little headroom and shoulder room. One can make the argument that you really don't need to pitch it low with the solid 1/2 walls on the inner, and that's true. But with the tarp alone, it can get tight, especially when you add in the front pole.

I must note that my tarp comes in much smaller than spec'd on HMG's website. I don't know if they sized up a bit on the Echo I since I got mine, but the front width on mine is only 6' when stretched out flat, and is spec'd at 7'. The rear width is something like 6-8" smaller than spec as well. Length is about right.

The Stratiform is much bigger. Two people can sit side by side in the front, and depending on pitch, one can sit upright nearly halfway back towards the foot end. It reminds me of an elongated Trailstar, especially since I have the optional rear beak installed. It seems very livable.

Downsides to the Stratiform: larger= more weight (but not much), larger footprint, and may have more deflection on the side panels.

This isn't a fabulous comparison shot, but you get some idea of size difference. The Echo beak is attached in this shot.

I'd like to note that I have not had the shelters up side by side yet, and have not spent a night in the Stratiform. For every other aspect but size, the Echo is still a really fabulous setup.

Thanks for this.

I also like the fact that they both look like decent alternatives to bear rugs.

You're welcome.

>I also like the fact that they both look like decent alternatives to bear rugs.

Lol! I had a teacher that had a hide on his floor. I'm not sure what it was, but it was a short-haired animal of some sort. Looked like the white Echo tarp…

never mind

great pics