Feb 15, 2013 at 8:18 pm #1299318
just Justin WhitsonMember
Was perusing REI recently and saw the Brooks LSD II wind jacket, which i previously had never heard of. The listed weight for a medium is 4.3 oz, and i did a breathe test on it and then on the Houdini which i have heard a lot about. To my surprise and subjective perception–the breathablity seemed rather similar. But that wasn't only it, even the back of the head, hood cinch system was pretty much the same.
One big difference besides price, was the Houdini is made out of nylon and the Brooks LSD II is made out of polyester. I think there are both pros and cons to both. On one hand, polyester is innately more warm (pro or con depending) and noticeably more innately hydrophobic than nylon (so it will dry faster, especially when the DWR's wear off), but on the other hand nylon is stronger and a bit more durable. When dealing with such thin materials to begin with, the latter is definitely an edge. Re: the warmth of the poly Brooks jacket compared to the P. Houdini, the former does have more innate venting which probably makes up for that.
The Brooks LSD II was on sale or clearance for 58 dollars. The Patagonia was 99 dollars. I'm aware you can get the latter cheaper at some online vendors, down to around 60 not including shipping in some cases. However, i wanted to be able to easily return it if i needed to or didn't like it.
So i figured 58 dollars was pretty much within my current budget if i worked a little extra on the weekend, which i have the option of (but don't like to do)… (Shhh, don't tell my wife, but i did get the Brooks jacket, it's hiding in my trunk–this, my double life as a gear junkie/whore/secret agent… oh, what the heck, i spent 50 dollars easily yesterday on stupid and completely unnecessary stuff for the vaunted "valentines" day)
Ok, so it's no Montbell Tachyon or the like (i would like to get the Stoic Wraith if they actually had it in stock), but i think the Brooks is a decent choice for the poor man's light(ish) windshirt.
Edited for correction of an error.Feb 15, 2013 at 9:05 pm #1954922
Richard NisleyBPL Member
@richard295Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Isn't that windshirt made by Brooks instead of Brooks Range?Feb 15, 2013 at 9:24 pm #1954924
just Justin WhitsonMember
Yes, you're right Richard. I will edit my other post, thank you for pointing that out.Feb 16, 2013 at 12:03 am #1954944
@lunchandynnerLocale: Pacific Northwest
I have the Brooks LSD ii and it's been great for me. I only wear it running though. It handles precipitation well and breathes pretty decently. On a cool day (high 30s to low 40s) I can run 10K+ (at 10 kph) without working up much of a sweat in it. But it definitely doesn't feel as durable as my First Ascent Sirroco windshirt, although they're the same weight… Probably because it feels silky/plasticky.Feb 17, 2013 at 2:38 pm #1955361
Had both of them…
You simply can't compare LSD to Houdini. It is completely different league – in terms of wind resistance, breathability, cut, quality etc.
Houdini turned out to be the best windshirt I have ever worn.
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