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PostedJan 21, 2013 at 6:52 am

Another clueless Andrew thread.

I'm in Puerto Natales and have the day to get reay for the 10 day Torres del Paine trek. I have some questions about food, fuel, etc

If I can't buy dehydrated meals what is the lightest and quickest cooking dinner? For breakfast I'm just going to have oatmeal so just need to boil water and will probably have snacks for lunch

I am solo and using a Msr microrocket and .85L Titan kettle. How much fuel would you recommend? Is 110g canister enough? I don't drink coffee or tea so I just need fuel for oatmeal and whatever I'm having for dinner

I'm in Patagonia and it is windy.. I do not have a windscreen but I've been told there are many sheltered cooking spots at the campgrounds. Should I still try to make a windscreen? Although all if the msr papers said never to use a windscreen

There are nice with hantavirus at some campgrounds. I would like to hang my food from a tree. I have at least 12 feet of cord, two 5 liter stuff sacks and ziploc bags. Is this enough to keep my food dry and not get blown away by the wind? What systems of hanging food are there?

Also since i have no experience and could cut a lot of weight from my pack I might buy a lot of meals at the Refugio's on the W part of the trek

Thanks in advance for tolerating my ignorance……Roger?

Brad Rogers BPL Member
PostedJan 21, 2013 at 7:49 am

I haven't used a canister stove in years but could get on average 17 12oz boils out of a 4oz canister with my gigapower. Not sure that helps a whole lot.

USA Duane Hall BPL Member
PostedJan 21, 2013 at 7:56 am

I've used the small MSR brand canister heating water for 8 days for dinner, maybe one breakfast. Mostly single serving Mt. House at 1.5 cups/meal. With the wind you say, be safe go with the larger size.
Duane
PS: That was with the old PR, I have not used my new MR but once a few weeks ago.

Dean F. BPL Member
PostedJan 21, 2013 at 8:28 am

Some light and quick dinners that you can find in nearly any grocery store include:

Anything using pre-cooked pasta. Ramen noodles, etc. If unable to find pre-cooked pasta then just find very SMALL pasta, like angelhair or orzo or couscous. They cook faster.

Instant rice plus an instant soup packet for flavor is one of my favorite brainless dinners. I use instant miso soup packets. (Non-instant rice is a pain to cook in the field IMO.)

Instant mashed potatoes. Idahoan brand even makes 4-serving (i.e. about a full hiker meal) pouches suitable for "freezer-bag" style cooking. Add some other stuff for flavor and better nutrition. Doubt you can find Idahoan brand in Patagonia, though… :)

You probably CAN find Nestle Nido dried milk or something similar. Add it to your oatmeal for some calories and protein. I don't know about the rest of the world but Nido is pretty much the only dried milk brand commonly available in the US that's full fat rather than skim or low fat.

Hope that helps. Lots cheaper than specialty hiking meals.

Ian BPL Member
PostedJan 21, 2013 at 9:11 am

I use the Soto OD-1R Micro Regulator Stove so this is not necessarily apples compared to apples but your fuel consumption will be in the ball park of what I will quote you. It is also fair to mention that I prefer Esbit over my alcohol and canister stove for weight and reliability reasons but will bring my Soto stove on occasion as a luxury item.

Jetboil/Jetpower fuel canister 100g specs: Total weight 7 oz. 3.5oz canister and 3.5oz fuel. I typically burn .5 oz of fuel to boil two cups of very cold water (~40*) with my stove wide open. This is without the optional Soto windscreen.

You obviously do not need two cups of water for oatmeal and the water does not need to come to a full boil unless you are sterilizing it. Throttling back on the stove may help milk an extra ounce or two from your canister. A pot cozy or wrapping your pot with other forms of insulation will help you conserve fuel as well.

I would stick with the manufacturers warnings with the windscreen. Use the natural terrain to protect your stove from the wind but don't use anything which may overheat your canister. I purchased the optional windscreen for my soto which weighs in at .7oz. I haven't used it enough to figure out if it will buy me an extra .7 oz of fuel from my canister or not but I like the way the stove performs with it so meh!

One is none. I've haven't had a canister failure yet but I wouldn't feel comfortable camping without some sort of backup. Esbit is only .5oz per tablet and I can boil two cups of water with it under ideal conditions. Just bring a small piece of foil and use rocks as your Esbit stove if necessary. If you want to forgo the Esbit or extra canister, make sure the food you are bringing can be readily consumed without the stove.

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