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PostedJan 11, 2013 at 6:32 am

Tyler, I have experience with both the Optimus Crux Lite with Terra solo kit, and the Crux with Weekender HE kit. Both stoves are excellent, by the way. If you're leaning to those, let me give you some input.

The pot kits are both well made, and if you're truly cooking for only yourself, I think the Lite/solo kit might be great. However, if you do plan to cook for 2-3, then I think you'd be much happier with the larger, Weekender HE kit. It holds more water and fits a large canister inside, so that you can have a turn-key package with stove, fuel, fire folding spoon and wind screen all within the size of a Nalgene bottle.

Crux with HE pot and windscreen
Optimus Crux and Weekender HE. Pacific Crest Trail, 2012

Tyler Miller BPL Member
PostedJan 11, 2013 at 6:36 am

Eric, your review (was it on Backcountry.com?) was one of the reasons I'm highly considering that set. Does the weekender's heat exchanger ring make a difference in boil times? It seems like the most convenient beginner setup for what I need, especially since I could cook for a few people if needed.

Jake D BPL Member
PostedJan 11, 2013 at 7:30 am

I'm a fan of my Crux so far. I have it paired with the Stoic 700 pot since i do freezer bag cooking and don't need a larger pot for just myself (have a backcountry 1400 if i think i will)

I also have the normal pocket rocket and the space savings of the Crux is awesome.

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedJan 11, 2013 at 11:59 am

Hi Rick

A few problems here.
First, the web site you refer to is Autter & Chovin, not Kovea. So anything they say on that web site is strictly unofficial.
Second, I can't see any performance figures on the A&C eBay page anyhow.
Third, I can't see any performance figures on the Kovea page for the Spider either.
Fourth, kcal is a unit of energy, not of power. In this context it is meaningless.

The GigaPower is listed as 10,000 BTU, which again is a unit of energy, not of power. If we assume they really mean BTU/hr, that's 2.9 kW. That's reasonable.

But quoting the Spider as 1400 kcal/hr (with the /hr assumed) – I just don't believe that. I have one, and it is on a par with most other small uprights – about 3 kW. One has to be careful about the marketing guys…

Cheers

PostedJan 11, 2013 at 4:17 pm

" Does the weekender's heat exchanger ring make a difference in boil times? It seems like the most convenient beginner setup for what I need, especially since I could cook for a few people if needed."

–It totally does, boiling water much faster than a non HE pot on another Crux and using the same fuel. Folks here on BPL have figured out that the increased efficiency does not save more fuel than the HE ring added to the pot adds in gram-weight on short trips, but I have to tell you: I love this and other HE pots for the faster boil times.

Anecdote Break: just this past summer, we got caught in one heck of a rain storm while on the River Trail below Thousand Island Lake. It was a cool/cold rain, with wind and heavy enough that the trails flooded as we tromped through 3-4" flowing water. Everybody was real wet below the waist(we packed rain gear for above the waist) and. on a break, I noticed that a few of the guys were looking cold. They were certainly feeling a bit intimidated on their first day of their first-ever High Sierra trip, as a few hours of 45-degree rain will do, and muttering to one another as we hunkered next to trees during a particularly hard part of the storm. I noted a few blue lips.

So, I crouched down, whipped out the Crux Weekender, dumped about 800 ml of water into the pot, lit it up…bang, instant fire a la' canister stoves and in the cold, windy rain I had a boil inside 2 minutes. I dumped in some coconut water drink mix, created hot "tea" and served all six of us in nothing flat.

It was just a quick sip, really, but hot "tea" is certainly good for the soul, and electrolytes are good, too! The hot felt good in the hands and in the belly. We chased that with some nuts and a bite of jerky. With the cold weather, the pot was cool practically as soon as I dumped the tea and it was raining hard enough that I just held it out to "rinse". I had the whole stove put away and we were back on trail after a 10 minute break. Any canister stove would fire like that, but the HE pot boils the water faster. I like faster.

With the .9l pot, you can cook for two, easily. If you're cooking "4 servings", you're just a tad shy and will need either a 1 liter pot or to do two boils. Of course, if you're doing Mountain House foods, you can cut back the water to avoid the "soup effect and then the .9 is fine.

Sunny Waller BPL Member
PostedJan 11, 2013 at 5:18 pm

I have owned and used almost all the various Esbit, Alcohol and cannister stoves out there. I have gone to the "dark side"… I use a Jet Boil. I own the Ti Sol. The cozy was too thin so I spent $6 and replaced it a cozy from a Zip Jet Boil. When backpacking I only carry a small canister and the stove, mug and lid. This weighs 16oz total but this gives me 24 2cup boils in wind and rain. And I get that 2 cup boil in about a minute.. Sweet… When car camping I cook on the Jet Boil with a pot or a frypan..it comes with a pot stand that you use instead of the mug. There is no "fiddle factor" with this stove..it is simple, quick, and easy.

Tyler Miller BPL Member
PostedJan 11, 2013 at 5:59 pm

@Sunny, and all, thanks for your tips and advice.


@Erik
– that tipped me over the edge. I just bought a new Terra Weekend HE set on ebay. Thanks!

Dan Yeruski BPL Member
PostedJan 11, 2013 at 7:11 pm

Just in case someone has doubts about alcohol lighting in cold weather watch this video of me thawing out my door lock latch up in Minnesota in 2008 at -13 degrees. I’m using a StarLyte burner with denatured alcohol.

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