Dec 31, 2012 at 10:06 am #1297526
Jeff HollisBPL Member
There are a million on the market but I am looking for something that is lightweight. I can find lightweight shell mitts and glove liners but when it comes to insulated and waterproof it is hard to know since most don't mention weight or concentrate on durable palms etc. I would probably wear them with liner gloves so don't need a bunch of insulation but combined with liner gloves I would say temps down to 20s or maybe teens max. Durable enough to clutch trekking poles would be good enough. Please let me know what you have found and weights. Thanks, JeffDec 31, 2012 at 10:18 am #1939599
Some sort of liner which is thin. Silk Liner?
Dachestien Wool Mitt
Some sort of taped waterproof mitts. REI taped mitts? or eVent mitts which will be more expensive.
Also there is Size M OR waterproof mitts for sale on Gear Swap.Dec 31, 2012 at 12:24 pm #1939643
Eric BlumensaadtBPL Member
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
Check Cabela's offeringsDec 31, 2012 at 6:48 pm #1939750
jeffrey armbrusterBPL Member
@bookLocale: Northern California
Rab makes an Event waterproof glove that's lightly insulated. Size up if you want to wear liners. I'm happy with mine. Sorry, I don't know the weight but they are definitely durable.Dec 31, 2012 at 6:57 pm #1939752
Jeffrey's talking about the RAB Latok. My mediums weigh 5 oz.Jan 1, 2013 at 3:52 am #1939797
In my experience, silk liners were inadequate insulation for WPB mitts to work in cold rain. I'll be sizing up on the mitts to accommodate a fleece liner for 2013.
BillJan 1, 2013 at 4:35 am #1939801
Michael CheifetzBPL Member
Im not a technical climbing guru or anything…but if your use is just trekking + poles etc I would seriously consider the combination above.
Reading quite a bit about the subject it seems it doesnt matter how awesome your 1 piece insulated+WPB mitt/glove is the insulation will wet out from sweat and water coming in from cuff etc.
I followed other people;s advice and have gone with liner+wool+WPBmitt.
This way you have many combos (eg juts liner, just WPB, liner+WPB, wool alone and so on) and you can take the insulation OUT and wring it/stuff in your crotch to warmup and dry
My personal choices were:
Liner (obviously many options here) OR powerstrech and I also have a REALLY THIN one that i can wear inside the OR (made of something a bit like lycra
Wool – I went with ORTOVOX Arctic – they have a nice selection (basically like Dachstein) its heavy weight wool pre shrunk in hot water etc etc. warm when wet, no frills etc
WPB – went with MLD eVent rain mitt – its very LW compared to other 3layer models …I gather it can take quite a bit of abuse of the type you are talking about…of ocurse there are lighter (zppacks+BRG Cuben mitts) or much sturdier ones
MikeJan 1, 2013 at 7:54 am #1939825
Hiking MaltoBPL Member
I had an interesting "learning" trip on the AT a couple weeks ago. I had the opportunity to experience every known weather condition from rain, wind, snow, cold and warmth. For weather like this which I think is much more challenging than consistent sub freezing temps, I have modified my glove system with the following layers.
1) Capilene glove liner.
2) VBL/WP (lightweight cleaning gloves)
3) fleece mitten gloves, could be two layers depending on conditions.
4) silnyl mitten shells
Liners are always worn. Add wind or colder temperatures then VBL/WP added. This would take me down to about freezing while hiking. Fleece added when temperatures drop below freezing and mitten shells added for cold temperatures with either wind or snow. This setup may appear to be overkill but it is very versatile. It can also be modified with additional or heavier insulation layers as conditions warrant. If I were taking off to hike the AT NoBo on Jan 1 this is definitely the setup I would take. That trip taught me that you can experience a huge range of nasty conditions and that my glove system has to be flexible enough to evolve with the conditions.Jan 1, 2013 at 7:59 am #1939828
Tipi WalterBPL Member
On my last December backpacking trip I ran into my backpacking buddy Patman who showed me his new Mt Hardwear down mittens which I tried on and they are light and fantastic and waterproof. They could be worn a size larger with a lightweight fleece glove. And they are warm.Jan 1, 2013 at 8:20 am #1939837
Mike MBPL Member
clearly a "system" is superior to one glove and outer mitts are warmer than outer gloves
I use a very thin liner (Patagonia) w/ a mid-weight fleece mitt (OR PL400) and waterproof outer mitt (OR Endeavor)- this "system" works well from 50 degrees to below 0
I haven't tried a VPL glove, but that's a good idea that weighs next to nothing and doubles as gloves for rendering first aidJan 1, 2013 at 8:48 am #1939850
Link .BPL Member
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John DonewarBPL Member
@newtonLocale: Southeastern Louisiana
Mike's post reminded me of the time that I improvised at the Dollar Store in a trail town.
I wanted to keep my hands dry and warm while collecting water during a winter hike.
I picked up a pair of these and they worked pretty well. I still have a pair in my gear locker. The extra length of the "gauntlet" is easily cut down.
I sized mine to fit my hands but I think you could size up and use a thin breathable liner glove underneath and create a fairly warm cold weather, waterproof glove system for just a little $$.
BTW Gloves of this sort do come in more "muted" colors. ;-)
NewtonJan 1, 2013 at 5:16 pm #1939997
Mike MBPL Member
^ hey whatever works works- right :)
I decided to try some thin latex gloves under my fleece gloves today as conditions were less than ideal for running- started at 20F w/ ~ a 10 mph wind, an hour into the run the wind picked up to 20-ish mph and started snowing heavily- your basic blizzard :)
anywho, my hands stayed toasty the entire run- my hands were wet when I took the latex gloves off, but warm
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