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PostedDec 26, 2012 at 4:29 pm

My threads must be pretty funny if you keep seeing them. Pretty much always say the same thing but about a different piece of gear.

I don't have much experience but am trying to get much lighter. I just traveled around Ecuador in heavy Zamberlin GTX boots and am going to try to use trail runners for my next trip. I'm going to be travlign through Argentina, Bolivia, and Peru. Doing all the main treks in Patagonia (Fitz Roy, Tierra del Fuego, TDP full circuit), and other treks like Santa Cruz in Peru. I will be doing day hikes with light packs, longest trek is TDP, about 8 days with a pack up to 30 lbs.

In Ecuador, I actually traveled with multiple pairs of shoes. My big Zamberlin boots and Merril Moab waterproof. I think they were both too small, although I did not do any serious damage, I always felt like I was jamming my toes into the front on downhills. I also hadn't sized up 1/2 to account for foot swelling. I used blue superfeet insoles and various pairs of socks depending on my shoes.

Today I tried on some shoes at REI. I did not like the Saloman XA Pro 3D Ultra 2, my heel kept sliding. I sized up 1 so they may have been too big but I felt like I couldn't get a snug fit with the laces without cutting off circulation.

I tried La Sportiva Wildcats, which they only had in 12 and 13, I think I'm going to order 12.5. My toes felt roomy and felt very comfortable in these. But after doing some research it seems that they don't have a rockplate which could lead to bruising. Though I read in another thread that the plastic plate of the superfeet insoles could be enough protection in trail runners without plates.

Tried the Terroc 330's but they felt a bit narrow, tongue of the 315's dug into the front of my foot/ankle.

Any other ideas or should I go with the wildcats because I liked the fit?

I'm also unsure of the sizing because I haven't figured out what socks I would wear. I have smartwool socks in all thicknesses, I also have various sock liners. Do you hike in your trail runners with just sock liners and/or thicker socks? I've seen some people talk about the Smartwool adrenaline socks, but have been unable to find them near me. I'm thinking of trying some waterproof socks, still a bit scared of the wet feet from rain. I was thinking I'd use liners and waterproof socks when I need them, and otherwise hike in lightweight smartwool socks.

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PostedDec 26, 2012 at 6:04 pm

I have gone through 6 pairs of wildcats over the last two years, four of them were 12.5 and the othe other two 12s. I like them as well as my last pair of Brooks Cascadias but I was able to find the Wilcats for under $80. One word of caution on the wildcats….. They absolutely suck in fresh snow. Last week I walked in fresh snow for the second time and had the same problem as the first time. Snow will ack in the mesh above the toes creating an ice ball that will push down on your toes. The first time this happened I lost feeling in my toes for about 4 months.

Give the Cascadias a try if you gave a chance, very similar feel to the wildcats. As far as the the wildcats, if they feel good go for it.

Wow, I just counted the number of trail runners I have gone through in the last two year, ten… I could save some serious money if I go barefoot.

PostedDec 26, 2012 at 6:12 pm

I don't remember the trail being terribly difficult walking; you'd be fine in trail runners with or without rock plates. Just make sure the shoes fit and you'll be happy.

As for getting your feet wet, just get used to it. You are going to be wet. A lot. The wind blows, gets in everywhere…heck, people were telling stories of urinating back on themselves as they tried to pee in the wind (the one time it's better to be a girl on the trail!!). You're just going to be wet. No big deal…it never dropped below freezing, you'll be fine.

I had no blisters and no foot issues – or other issues with spending a lot of time being wet. The temps during the day were quite pleasant, then when you settle in for the night wipe off your feet, put on some nice dry socks and snuggle down into your sleeping bag. You'll be nice and toasty…and ready to get all wet again the next day ;)

Just make sure you protect your sleeping clothes, a pair of socks, and your sleeping bag inside your pack. Covers are generally useless there…

PostedDec 26, 2012 at 7:55 pm

Jeez, do you stalk me Jen? Too helpful..

I'm going to try out the La Sportiva Raptors as well because they're on sale. I'll check out some Cascadia's and go with whichever fit best and put in my Superfeet. Thanks for the replies.

Would like to hear what socks you guys use too

PostedDec 27, 2012 at 6:22 am

I'm a lover of Darn Tough socks, but I just found out there is an alternative that is worth considering. REI sells "FITS" socks that are tailored merino just like Darn Tough. I was gifted a pair for Christmas and I'm really impressed with the tailoring, particularly how the heal area on the sock is designed to cup my heal. Haven't tested them on the trail yet though.

Video:

http://www.rei.com/product/838171/fits-light-hiker-quarter-socks#ooid=hzdTlpNTq2MigGqfbHq1CBkS_3lkaZX6

PostedDec 27, 2012 at 1:47 pm

Sounds good, on sale, I'll try em out, thanks for the recommendations. For an 8 day trip how many pairs would you bring, 2 or 3?

PostedDec 27, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Just go with what feels comfortable because for shoes fit is everything.

I wore the Wildcats for a season in the Sierra and really liked them. Then as Greg, I switched to the Brooks Cascadia, and I adore those. Try them both, your feet will tell you which to choose.

I just use a very thin liner type sock for hiking. Bring a couple of pairs. The main advantage of thin socks is that they dry almost instantly. This is important, because as Jen points out you will be wet … a lot. So instead of struggling with trying to dry out thick wool socks, just bring the thin nylon kind instead.

As Jen also pointed out, deep inside your pack wrapped in a sturdy trash compactor bag to keep it dry, you will store your sleeping bag and your dry, warm, fuzzy clothes including warm hat, puffy jacket, set of long underwear and a pair of wool sleeping socks.

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