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PostedDec 13, 2012 at 3:05 pm

My fav lightweight headlamp for 3 season use, the PT Scout broke at its tiny plastic swivel hinge. Unfixable and no longer sol;d by Princeton Tec. :o(

(EDIT: I sent my broken Scout to PT and they sent me a new one. Got it 3 days ago.)

So the next best (or maybe better) headlamp is the PT Remix Pro MPLS, a "tactical" version of the Remix available in most stores.

The MPLS uses a CCR123 lithium battery instead of 3 AAA batteries like the regular Remix. Nice B/C my Steripen also uses a CR 123. Fewer extra batteries to carry.

The MPLS also may a bit more water "resistant" than the regular Remix. All I need is that it be rainproof.

So off to order a new headlamp. The Remix MPLS appears to be sturdier than the old Scout, not to mention brighter and with several light color options.

**PLUS the MPLS version is a REGULATED circuitry.

Tim Drescher BPL Member
PostedJan 10, 2013 at 9:24 am

Can anyone else speak to the differences they like between the regular Remix and the MPLS version? I like that the maximum Lumen output are both at 100… The MPLS version looks to be a little bit lighter at 66 grams as opposed to the regular Remix at 83 grams. They both have 3 ultrabright LED’s with 1 maxbright LED. On the surface I really don’t have a preference on batteries as long as I can purchase Lithium. What else should I be considering here?

PostedJan 10, 2013 at 4:19 pm

"Can anyone else speak to the differences they like between the regular Remix and the MPLS version? I like that the maximum Lumen output are both at 100…"

I used the regular Remix all last year in the Sierra and have been very impressed with its performance. That said, I've wondered at times whether I should have purchased the Pro MPLS for its regulated circuitry and CR123 battery compatibility with my Steripen. I have had difficulty tracking down comparitive data on the relative burn times of the two, but finally ran across the article in the link below. I'd advise reading the section comparing the Remix with the Pro MPLS, and then draw your own conclusions. All I can say is that I now feel a little more comfortable with my original decision.

http://www.militarymorons.com/equipment/illumination2.html

Edited for missing word.

Tim Drescher BPL Member
PostedJan 11, 2013 at 12:15 pm

Well, interesting. That certainly changes some things.

Thanks for the article, Tom.

PostedJan 11, 2013 at 4:06 pm

I agree, burn time of the "civilian" Remix is longer and may obviate the regulated circuit on the Remix Pro. Evidentaly 3 AAA batteries has more "juice" than one CR 123 (both being lithium, that is).

When (if) my Remix Pro ever gets here I'll test it for actual burn time on medium setting. Usually MAX settings are not regulated.

PostedJan 11, 2013 at 4:21 pm

"When (if) my Remix Pro ever gets here I'll test it for actual burn time on medium setting. Usually MAX settings are not regulated."

Would you let us know the results, Eric? That would be really useful information to have, especially since I almost never use the MAX setting.

PostedJan 12, 2013 at 11:41 am

3AAA batteries will have a combined mah rating of about 3000mah. 1CR123 will be about 1500mah. Also the AAAs will start out with a voltage of 4.5V verses 3V for the CR123. Those two facts means that the 3AAA combination will have more available power for the electronics.

I have the prinneton Tec Fuel and although the web site doesn't state this it has a constant LED brightness. I strongly suspect the power regulation circuitry on both versions of Remix is the same.

PostedJan 12, 2013 at 6:48 pm

"3AAA batteries will have a combined mah rating of about 3000mah. 1CR123 will be about 1500mah. Also the AAAs will start out with a voltage of 4.5V verses 3V for the CR123. Those two facts means that the 3AAA combination will have more available power for the electronics.

I have the prinneton Tec Fuel and although the web site doesn't state this it has a constant LED brightness. I strongly suspect the power regulation circuitry on both versions of Remix is the same."

Very good beta, Steven! Thanks for posting. Do you have any thoughts on why Princeton Tech would not publicize the regulated power circuitry feature on the standard Remix? It seems like it would be a good selling point.

PostedJan 13, 2013 at 12:05 am

"Do you have any thoughts on why Princeton Tech would not publicize the regulated power circuitry feature on the standard Remix? It seems like it would be a good selling point."

Let me clarify that I strongly suspect the Fuel is regulated. Its light output has been very constant despite long hours of use, more so than any none regulated flashlight I have used in the past. Unfortunately the only way to be sure is to take it apart and examine the circuit. Unfortunately the only way I can see to do that is to take a hammer to it. I have taken apart 3 other flashlights I own and they are regulated though that was not stated on the packaging.

When mass produced regulation technology doesn't cost a lot of money to install. Also the technology isn't new. It's been around for decades and a lot of flashlights today have it While you may think its a big selling feature many others may not care. Most people only want to know that it works, runs a long time on one set of batteries, and puts out enough light for there needs.

Princeton Tec list only one headlamp as being UL certified while there others are not. Why? While the Remix MLS is listed as having regulating circuitry the standard remix and the Remix Pro are not nor any other lamp. Why? I think the reason for this discrepancy is they are trying to market it to the military crowd. People wanting anything military or those that want the best (and often think military gear is the best) and are willing to spend more to get it. I cannot find the price of the Princeton Tec Remix MLS but the Remix Pro (Which looks like the same light is listed at $54. About $15 to $25 dollars more. Quite a jump for the "Pro" title.

Tim Drescher BPL Member
PostedJan 14, 2013 at 3:50 pm

Thank you very much for the info Steven.

I think my decision should be obvious.

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