Dec 4, 2012 at 12:11 pm #1296727
Long story short:
Had a 2005 model Arcteryx Paclite jacket. It severely delaminated suddenly in the past month or so. Emailed them etc and they just wrote in that they will replace it with a new piece – sweet!
In reality I was on the verge of saying "Hey – might as well buy one of those new UL designs like the westcomb DVL or Montane minimus" but CSR saved the day for them. Good work!
Now for some advice: assuming my choices are:
Alpha SL – full Paclite
Alpha SL hybrid – Paclite + Proshell in high abrasion
Alpha FL – GTX Activeshell all over (no pit zip)
Alpha SL pullover – same as SL but Po style
comments?Dec 4, 2012 at 12:21 pm #1933037
@m-lLocale: W-Never Eat Soggy (W)affles
I would probably get the lightest one that has the features you want. It's hard to say because for some people they will be wearing it through big snowstorms and in wet locations. Others will bring it for just in case emergencies and therefore it will remain in thier pack %95 of the time. However when it is cold and not wet, these shells do a good job of holding body heat in and blocking wind.Dec 4, 2012 at 12:34 pm #1933042
all these jkts are mostly the same….apart from this difference.
So the dilemma is Pcalite with pitzips or Active without
If i understand correctly the activeshell is supposed to be AS WATERPROOF but more breathable than paclite (direct venting..?) and more abrasion resistant
and its also in this case 70g less
am i missing something?
This will be my main jacket for 3 season stuff – which means it could be used for walking full days in the rain.Dec 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm #1933057
@redpointLocale: British Columbia
I just had to use their customer service to replace a jacket and it was great. Patagonia is awesome too.
I have an Alpha LT which is amazing. It's a very light, full-on mountain shell.Dec 4, 2012 at 1:31 pm #1933064
@mike – yeah I get that the LT is Pro. but asking them to not only replace a 8 yr old jacket but to upgrade me 200CAD up is stretching it (+its heavierDec 4, 2012 at 2:18 pm #1933077
The Alpha FL has gotten some great reviews and offers a trim fit. For me, it'd be between the SL Hybrid and the FL. I prefer a more trim fit and don't like pitzips – FL.Dec 4, 2012 at 2:25 pm #1933081
Rick MBPL Member
delDec 4, 2012 at 2:38 pm #1933085
as i said they are replacing an old jkt for free with obviously limited choices…the Proshell is 200CAD more.
If I were BUYING a new one i would look at new Westcomb DVL eVent or Montane minimus
why do Gore say active shell is NOT GOOD for hiking???Dec 4, 2012 at 3:20 pm #1933104
Rick MBPL Member
delDec 4, 2012 at 9:30 pm #1933215
Gore Active shell has proven itself as durable as one can expect, given its short time on the market. The Alpha FL in particular has been lauded for its durability.
Of course Gore has to come up with some marketing scheme to upsell you on their Pro shell. After all, PacLite is only for EMERGENCY summertime showers, not real elements. Then again, Gore tells us Windstopper isn't waterproof (yet a number of manufacturers seam tape those same jackets and use waterproof zips!)… I take their marketing with a grain of salt.Dec 4, 2012 at 10:14 pm #1933224
Max DiltheyBPL Member
I'm trying to compile a list of good companies to buy gear from, as I have had disappointments in the past with poorly made products (Not happy with Columbia…). I'm glad to add Patagonia to my list, if people like what they get from them.
Has anyone had a good experience with Marmot?
They don't make gear, but if you get "in" with Zappos through a couple of large purchases, they absolutely baby you. I purchase everything I possibly can from them; sleeping bags, jackets, pants, you name it. If it doesn't work, even if I took it on a 30-day trip, they work with you to make things right.Dec 5, 2012 at 12:47 pm #1933343
@redpointLocale: British Columbia
haha – yeah, they won't be giving you a pricier piece. I was merely showing my fondness for the lightweight Alphas. I'd consider going for the hybrid piece: strength and durability only where you need it.Dec 5, 2012 at 4:37 pm #1933403
Steve KBPL Member
@skomaeLocale: northeastern US
I have the Beta FL (similar to Alpha FL, but different cut and two handwarmer pockets). It is my favorite jacket. In cooler weather (50º and below), the Active Shell maintains comfort in line with eVent.
The jacket is plenty durable and has seen plenty of trail time. Every time I get caught on a branch or scrape on a rock, I think "this is it, I'm gonna damage it" but it comes unscathed every time.
Keep in mind that the cut is fairly trim. I can fit only a Nano Puff under it. The Alpha FL is even closer-fitting. You might want to size up if you like to layer a lot under your shell.Dec 5, 2012 at 10:02 pm #1933492
thanks all for your input
I guess ill risk it with the activeshell
just to rehash – I got great service from Arcteryx – so i'm a happy camper :)Dec 6, 2012 at 4:15 am #1933509
Nathan WattsBPL Member
Good choice. The Active Shell is a great fabric
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