Oct 28, 2012 at 6:45 pm #1295602
I'm thinking about getting a thermos flask for winter dayhikes and also use it for backpacking/snowshoeing. I would probably carry some tea/coffee/hot choclate/soup on day hikes and soup for lunch when backpacking. Do you guys use thermos and any recommendations are welcome.Oct 28, 2012 at 8:04 pm #1924995
@richardglyonLocale: Bridger Mountains
I can highly recommend the Stanley Nineteen-13 vacuum bottle. Best thermos I've ever used at keeping hot drinks and soups hot. See my review at BackpackGearTest.org for further information.
RichardOct 28, 2012 at 10:21 pm #1925015
I just listed a vintage one pint glass lined aluminum shell Thermos in the Gear Swap.
Other than that, the wide-mouth Klean Kanteen thermal bottles come in several sizes and the REI flip top vacuum tumbler keeps the contents hot for shift. I got one for my daughter and she loves it for commuting. Not the best for soup. http://www.rei.com/product/799295/rei-flip-top-vacuum-tumbler-15-fl-ozOct 30, 2012 at 6:19 am #1925310
HydroFlask makes a couple of very well insulated stainless thermoses. Last year I was in the Adirondacks…temp was -10F, and after eight hours of hiking, my tea was still too hot to drink right away. After that, I would highly recommend these…Oct 30, 2012 at 9:16 am #1925348
I bought a REI flask yesterday evening and put it to test by filling it with boiling water and putting it in the freezer. When I checked after 4 hrs, the water was still piping hot and after 12 hrs, it was not warm or cold.Oct 30, 2012 at 9:45 am #1925358
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
Here is what I have been using for decades. UL and multi-purpose.
Nalgene bottle and Outdoor Research insulated bottle carrier. The bottle is wide-mouth and virtually indestructible.
1 QT Nalgene weighs 109 grams (3.844 oz)
OR insulation weights 103 grams (3.633 oz)
Total weight 213 grams (7.513 oz)Oct 30, 2012 at 10:46 am #1925369
Roll it in some clothing as it might be in a pack and it will go longer yet. Anything that will keep cold moving air away will help. Spare socks are easy.Oct 30, 2012 at 10:47 am #1925370
Your avatar says you're from Southern Cal…I wonder what temps you use this system in? I tried the same thing in the Adirondacks, and it turned into slush in just four hours…Oct 30, 2012 at 11:03 am #1925372
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
I only use this in winter in sub-freezing temperatures to keep my water from freezing at night. Sometimes I will cook up a hot beverage or soup and consume it while hiking. Not as good as a Thermos, but weighs a lot less and no concerns about breakage. Weight triumphs over long-term hot every time :)Oct 30, 2012 at 11:25 am #1925376
"it turned into slush in just four hours…"
Not nearly enough rum :)Oct 30, 2012 at 11:25 am #1925377
between carrying a stove, or just carrying a thermos. While it's nice to stop and heat something up, I have found the urge to keep moving is stronger, so opted for the HydroFlask instead…Oct 30, 2012 at 11:26 am #1925378
"Not nearly enough rum :)"
Believe it or not, on that day – the bottle of Jamesons in my car was a bit slushy too!!Oct 30, 2012 at 11:40 am #1925383
"the bottle of Jamesons in my car was a bit slushy too!"
That is cold! But we're glad you checked it to make sure :D If it is cold enough to make 40% alcohol(80 proof) slushy, it will take a good thermos to keep things hot.
I like to take an Esbit wing stove and a 450ml mug with a small windscreen to whip up some soup or hot beverage. An "Ikea wood stove" and IMUSA mug would be good to make more hot stuff for a small group on a winter day hike.Oct 30, 2012 at 11:43 am #1925385
"I like to take an Esbit wing stove and a 450ml mug with a small windscreen to whip up some soup or hot beverage. An "Ikea wood stove" and IMUSA mug would be good to make more hot stuff for a small group on a winter day hike."
I tried carrying a Jetboil once, but it was too cold for the canisters so couldn't get a good flame to stay lit. I have a wood stove, but much of the High Peaks area doesn't allow fires, so that won't work…and it seems overkill to bring a full on gas stove like a Dragonfly…Oct 30, 2012 at 12:06 pm #1925390
For winter hiking, I'm thinking of the wettest conditions imaginable, so fire danger just isn't an issue– common sense prevailing of course. A liquid fuel stove would be good for a small group and shared load, but bulky for one or two and day hiking. If you are melting snow, that is about it.Nov 1, 2012 at 9:58 pm #1925963
I had some items on my bench today and discovered that a Lowepro #2 lens case makes a perfect bottle insulator for a one liter Nalgene. It has a handy dandy super belt loop on the back. Interior dimensions are 8.25" x 3.5" and weight is 6.8oz.
Dec 9, 2012 at 6:26 pm #1934377
Just wanted to provide an update on REI flask.
I have taken it on couple of hikes, but put it to real test yesterday on a snowshoeing in the Mt.Hood area, the temps were in 30's and the flask stayed in the side pockets of my backpack. I filled it with hot choclate ~7AM and pulled out to drink at ~ 2PM and it was extremely hot that I had to open the lid and let it cool down a bit. The tic-tac button dispenser works very well without any leaks.
Tip: Fill the flask with some boiling water for 5-10 minutes before you pour your drink into it.Dec 11, 2012 at 10:30 pm #1934934
A couple of easy tests you can do.
The typical temperature inside your fridge is 40f, the freezer should run at around 0
So depending on what you call cold, shove your insulated container or flask in your fridge /freezer, leave that for the desired time (IE I want my drink to be hot for 2/3/4/5 hours) and you will have a much better idea.
In my limited experience and insulated container (like the ones for the Nalgene) work for a couple of hours at around 32f.
(if you start with 750ml/1 L) for lower temps you need a vacuum flask ("Thermos")
A mate has used the REI flask down to -40 several times, it works well for several hours.Dec 12, 2012 at 10:10 am #1935006
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@speltLocale: SW/C PA
If you want truly *hot* liquids, get a Stanley or other glass-lined vacuum thermos. I don't worry much about weight on dayhikes, so sometimes I take one for tea and another for soup. (I make someone else carry one if they want me to share, though ;) I don't know that I would take my Stanley on a trip longer than an overnighter, however. It's a definite luxury item with a weight penalty and if it were truly frigid I'd probably choose to spend the ounces on more insulation.Dec 19, 2012 at 8:28 pm #1936791
I have tested that when stored inside the freezer, the liquid stays hot for at least 4 hrs. Not sure how your friend manages to keep it ht in -40's. May be be buries it deep in his pack I suppose.
Yes its a luxury item and in my opinion best investment one can make for day hikes in winter.Dec 21, 2012 at 1:50 am #1937152
Yes , inside the pack. But I suspect that inside the freezer the contact against either the grate or other frozen stuff will rob the flask of heat faster than air (or inside a pack) , but my main point was that those insulated containers (non vacuum) are a lot less effective.
BTW, 1 L will of course remain hotter than 750 and 500ml and even more so as you open the flask to drink from it every half an hour or so.
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