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Oct 22, 2012 at 2:39 pm #1295446
I just received my Enlightened Revelation quilt in the mail. First off, it's awesome.
Secondly, going over it I noticed the bungee cord at the bottom will most certainly come out of the loops the way I received it. I toss and turn a lot throughout the night and can't for the life of me think of a way to attach these bungee cords so they'll be adjustable yet will not fall off. Maybe I'm being a little dense but I am drawing a blank.
Oct 22, 2012 at 2:51 pm #1923721I don't use the bungees at all. I leave them at home. I just tuck it around me.
Oct 22, 2012 at 3:02 pm #1923724I'm not familiar with Enlightened Equipment's strap arrangement, could you provide a photo?
Oct 22, 2012 at 4:49 pm #1923750I don't use them either. I haven't found them to be even slightly necessary.
Oct 22, 2012 at 11:25 pm #1923809I have a 40 degree version, and i use only as few of those straps as i can get away with. What i do is run the cord through the two loops once, like the first lace on a shoe, then take the ends together through the first cord lock. instead of knotting them i just use another cord lock on the end… one to adjust and one to stop it from falling off. This way i can easily add the loops for colder trips, or remove them without having to untie any knots. ymmv
Oct 23, 2012 at 1:03 am #1923819"I'm not familiar with Enlightened Equipment's strap arrangement, could you provide a photo?"
Oct 23, 2012 at 4:12 am #1923834I have used a quilt in Maine for about a year now. I get cold VERY easily, and I found that I froze at 30 degrees. My quilt came with loops but no straps and I did not know what they were for. Now I use a wider pad and straps and I am much more comfortable. The strapping I use (not bungees) weighs very little and has been helpful. Perhaps as your quilt gets near its/your comfort range the bungee straps will prove useful to you.
Oct 23, 2012 at 4:29 am #1923836Oct 23, 2012 at 5:16 am #1923846The warmest way is to cinch them around your body, not the pad as that way you are not warming dead air space.
Personally I don't use them unless it is around 25 F or lower. I don't even have them on 3 of my quilts.
Oct 23, 2012 at 10:58 am #1923906Oct 23, 2012 at 11:07 am #1923907Thanks a lot!
I was just telling myself to be patient while my EE Revelation quilt is being made..
Your pictures have put the kybosh on that strategy!Lets see.. 3 weeks.. 4 days, 8 hours, 32 minutes, 10 seconds…
Cheers
Oct 23, 2012 at 11:30 am #1923912The wait is worth it. The craftsmanship is top notch and boy is it cozy!
Oct 23, 2012 at 11:43 am #1923915Is that how you are going to strap them? For the life of me, I can't figure out how to secure the dang thangs. :)
Oct 23, 2012 at 5:25 pm #1924005I have been trying to convert to a quilt but I am having a problem using it with the narrow sleeping pads (neo air). Without the sleeping bag to keep my arms tight to my body I find that they keep falling off the sides of the pad and it is uncomfortable. I've tried crossing my arms but they slide apart after I fall a sleep. Any suggestions? Does anyone sell 72" pads 25" wide?
Oct 23, 2012 at 5:37 pm #1924007Victor, I have that problem as well. In warmer weather, I just tuck my hands int my pockets or waistband, and that mostly works. In colder weather, my quilt is cinched around me tightly enough that my arms stay by my sides. It takes a little getting used to, but it's worked so far.
Oct 23, 2012 at 6:02 pm #1924009Does anyone sell 72" pads 25" wide?
You can get a Xtherm large which is 25 inches wide or Neoair or Xlite or
THERM-A-REST – RIDGEREST SOLAR in large; all are 25 inches wide.I find if I take a very thin light foam pad that is 1/4 wide and may 3 feet long and put it inside my quilt beneath me and then sleep on my neoair large that I cut short to 47 inches that it increases the amount of warmth dramatically.
Oct 23, 2012 at 6:13 pm #1924014This is literally how it came. I'm trying to figure out how it is supposed to work this way.
Oct 23, 2012 at 6:19 pm #1924017I came to commiserate. I just got this quilt too and couldn't figure out what to do with those bungee cords. I don't seem to be able to fit 2 cord ends into one lock – which would make it workable.
So I quit and just scavenged the straps that came with my Golite quilt – they have a tiny buckle.
Oct 23, 2012 at 6:38 pm #1924023I think Tims idea was that the cordlock would stay behind the loop under tension, but it doesnt too well.
I think, hes experimenting with some different loop materials
What he suggested to me,was just to tie it on one side, then make a small loop on the other end. Put the cordlock thru that small loop, then it can be tightened up, and still removed somewhat easily.
What is desired is something that can be adjusted tight, but quickly undone to get out, the cordlock needs to be like a button in a button hole thru a snug loop. A snap-buckle would be ideal, just heavier most likely.
I suggest a mitten hook on one end, with the cord thru the hole, and the cordlock behind it. Then remove the mitten hook from the loop for instant open.
Oct 23, 2012 at 9:38 pm #1924054Thank you for some insight. I tried your method and I still couldn't figure it out. I guess I'm a visual learner.
Anyway, I gave up and just used some twist ties to attach the loops together. I've got to lock this thing down because I'm camping this weekend and the forecast is calling for a low of 4 degrees. Ouch. :)
I'm a little worried about the claimed drafts, but I will be wearing a full puffy layer, and using a bivy, and inside a 3 season tent.
*fingers crossed*
Oct 23, 2012 at 10:00 pm #1924058Play with it and experiment. Find what works for you. Even better, do it when the stakes are low (like in your backyard or car camp with your gear), and you'll be even more confident in the backcountry.
We all do things a bit differently, and it's experience that makes the difference.
Oct 24, 2012 at 5:50 am #1924079Be sure to fluff the down back to the middle before going to sleep. I failed to do that on a cold night and dearly paid the price for it. I was cold and miserable when I failed to realize all of the down had migrated to the ends of the quilt. The down migrates easily in these quilts which is a mixed blessing.
Oct 24, 2012 at 5:54 am #1924080Would overfill reduce the migration?
Oct 24, 2012 at 6:06 am #1924083Tim and other Enlightened quilt users say that is why they choose the overstuff-to reduce how much down migrates. I wish I would have known that before ordering my quilt because I would have chosen that option. At the time I thought it was only to increase the warmth of the quilt. You still need to fluff it before going to sleep but apparently more of the down stays in place in the baffles.
Oct 24, 2012 at 6:21 am #1924086I will be sure to fluff as much as I can. I'm a little tight with the two pads inside of the bivy, so it could be challenging. I did order a 10* overstuff…so I'll be close with this 4 degree forecast.
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