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    jake.
    BPL Member

    @jake-l

    Locale: Katahdin

    Would really like to hear peoples thoughts about my gear list. I've provided a geargrams link and a full list below. I'm going on an overnight in the White Mountains this weekend with a friend. The weather is supposed to be mostly sunny with chances of rain. Temps during the day are low 50's F and at night in the high 30's F. The shelter and cook kit below will be divided between the two of us. Turbid in advance!

    http://www.geargrams.com/list?id=9860

    Total: 13.45lb
    Pack: 10.12lb
    Worn: 3.32lb
    Consumable: .48oz

    Backpack- 30L Cilogear 30L work sack: sack, foam pad and hipbelt 21.96oz

    SHELTER/SLEEPING Total: 66.94oz
    Tent- GG Squall Classic w/sack, lines and rear pole 29.72oz
    Ground cloth- Polycyro, LG 72" X 96" 2.70oz
    Tent stakes w/bag- 6 Ti stakes 1.22oz
    Air Mattress- Neoair, Sm 9oz
    Quilt- Katabatic Gear Palisade, regular/wide, +3oz overfill 23.60oz

    WATER Total: 5.73oz
    Water bladder- Evernew 2L, drink tube/valve 3.22oz
    Water bottle- 24oz Nestle bottle 0.86oz
    Water treatment- Aquamira parts A/B in mini dropper bottle w/mixing cap 1.20oz
    FAK- Bandaids, gauze pads, neosporin, alcohol pads, moleskin, safety pin 0.45oz

    COOK KIT Total: 16.19oz
    Alcohol stove- TD 12-10 0.55oz
    Caldera Cone- For 1.9L Evernew pot 2.41oz
    Bowl/mug- Insulated Caddy for Caldera Cone 3.79oz
    Spork- Light My Fire spork 0.32oz
    Fuel bottle- AGG 8oz 1.10oz
    Pot- Evernew 1.9L Ti 7.60oz
    Food bag- Nylo Barrier 12 5/8" x 24" 0.42oz

    TOOLS Total: 12.48oz
    Ditty bag- HMG stuff sack 7"x10" 0.21oz
    Fire starter- Wet Fire 0.20oz
    Lighter- Mini Bic 0.40oz
    Knife- Derma Safe razor 0.27oz
    Trekking pole- GG LT4 w/basket, single 4oz
    Bear line- AGG 40' spectra line w/rock bag 1oz
    Map- AMC Tyvek 0.77oz
    Headlamp- Petzl e-Lite w/batteries 1oz
    Needle/thread- 0.02oz
    Compass- Suunto Comet key chain w/thermometer 0.36oz
    Light- Nite Ize mini light w/batteries 0.29oz
    Fire steel- Flint/steel/magnesium rod 0.39oz
    Bear bag/pump- BA pumphouse 1.50oz
    Tape- Duct and WP medical tape wrapped around pencil piece 0.57oz
    Pack liner- NyloBarrier 20"x36" 1.05oz
    Repair kit- 1/4oz tube seamgrip, 2 nylon patches, Tenacious Tape 0.48oz

    TOILETRIES Total: 1.22oz
    Toilet paper- 2 disposable shop towels 0.42oz
    Toothbrush/floss- 0.31oz
    Toothpaste- in straw 0.09oz
    Sanitizer- 0.40oz

    CLOTHING Total: 91.24oz
    Hiking shoes(WORN)- Merrell Moab Ventilators, 10W 34.80oz
    Bandana(WORN)- MSR Ultralight pack towel cut down 1.12oz
    T-shirt(WORN)- L/S Reebok powerdry, XL 4.92oz
    Md Wt shirt- Patigonia R1 Flash pullover , XL 12.40oz
    Thermal pants- Polyester underwear, XL 5.80oz
    Wind pant(WORN)- Wild Things wind pant 4.12oz
    Underwear(WORN)- EMS boxer brief, L 2.54oz
    Socks(WORN)- Fox River ankle 1.76oz
    Hat- Black Rock Gear Hadron down hat, large 0.68oz
    Waterproof socks- 2 bread bags 0.48oz
    Rain mitt- MLD rain mitt, LG 1.41oz
    Down vest- Black Rock Gear down vest, XL 4.90oz
    Rain pant- Dri Ducks, LG 4.58oz
    Rain jacket- Dri Ducks, LG 6.15oz
    Sleep socks- Fleece socks 2.39oz
    Buff- merino wool 1.86oz
    Gloves- Possumdown gloves, LG 1.36oz

    #1917667
    Tjaard Breeuwer
    BPL Member

    @tjaard

    Locale: Minnesota, USA

    The only sure weight saving I can think of it to ditch the rocksack. I use my stake sack, since you only hang your food when your shelter is up, this is great dual use. They also have similar requirements for durability.

    Are the windpants worn?
    Will you be warm enough in the just a down vest at 30 F? It get's dark early this time of year, so I assume, you will be sitting in camp for a long time.

    No windshirt? If it's 40 F and the wind picks up, I'd want more than a longsleeve shirt.

    #1917711
    jake.
    BPL Member

    @jake-l

    Locale: Katahdin

    the stake bag for use as the rock bag is a great idea!

    Yes, the windpants are worn.

    The Sun is setting at 6:15pm and it's supposed to get down to 38F Friday night in camp. The vest is pretty warm with 2.5oz of down combined my l/s thermal shirt, R1 and the Dri Ducks thrown over.

    Most of the hiking is below tree line with just a few summits and ridges. The Dri Ducks jacket should be comfortable over just the l/s thermal if the day time temp dropped from 50F to 40F with some wind above tree line. If I was still cold while on the move I also have the R1 to wear with or without the jacket.

    #1918076
    Mike M
    BPL Member

    @mtwarden

    Locale: Montana

    looks like a pretty solid list, I like that you have the toiletries, first aid and repair stuff whittled down nicely- it's common to see a lot of excess there in gear lists

    do you actually cook in the 2 liter pot? the reason I ask when camping for 2 I use a .9 liter pot, but it's all boil in a bag meals (in the winter when I've got snow to melt I bring a 2.0 liter Titan)

    I never use rain pants personally, for some reason my legs seldom get cold and I don't mind getting them wet (they would normally get wet from sweat wearing rain pants anyways)- how good is the DWR on your wind pants?

    how do you like the down beanie? I was going to order one of his vests, but he ran out of material :(

    #1918158
    jake.
    BPL Member

    @jake-l

    Locale: Katahdin

    I do not cook in the pot and do a lot of boil in bag cooking like yourself. With two people a 1L grease pot would be a better size for 3 season use and save 4oz. I don't currently own this inbetween size…I've used my Fosters can for solo use and the 1.9L for everything else.

    The DWR on the wind pants is decent and I have no problem hiking thru any wind or rain in them. In camp when it's pouring the Dri Duck pants and jacket come in handy if I want to be outside the tent for any length of time.

    I LOVE the BRG down vest and Hadron beanie! I also own an original hat but find the Hadron perfect for most 3 season use.

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