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Sep 26, 2012 at 4:17 pm #1915891
I recommend playing the scenario as through you were reading it after the fact:
July 23, 2013 North Cascades National ParkA lost hiker was found dead today at the bottom of a cliff on the Lake XYZ trail. Search and Rescue personnel report that he was was using a light stick for navigating the trail in the dark and fell 200 feet to his death. There was a gravely injured hiker camped at the lake and the victim volunteered to go for help. His identity has been withheld pending notification of his family.
Which would be discussed in hiking forums with the posters pondering why the poor guy didn't have a flashlight. Every year we read about people who are lost, injured or die for want of basic essentials. As in your example of someone who feels he must carry a huge knife, there are common sense limits to what is practical and effective to carry. Ultimately it does come down to hike your own hike. Be careful!Sep 26, 2012 at 4:24 pm #1915894Sarah asked, "He Dale, did we pass the same person? In the Olympics? ;-) They were rocking out pretty good. It was lashed on to the top of their pack…lol!!
At least with ipods people listen to the music in their heads and not on boom boxes anymore ;-)"
It was on the Lake Alice trail off I-90. I was on the way down, so I didn't have to suffer for long. There were four guys on a day hike without any gear, not even a water bottle, cotton tees and jeans, but he had that boom box on his shoulder, blasting away. I was too amazed to say anything and just walked on down the trail.
I put in the same file with the guy I saw riding a bike the wrong way down a one way street without a helmet and smoking. He would make a better organ donor if he wasn't smoking!
Sep 26, 2012 at 7:58 pm #1915984Depending on your definition of battery I think the following flashlight would meet your requirements
http://www.amazon.com/Mini-Dynamo-Wind-up-Flashlight-Keychain/dp/B0061NRS1E/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_2
I believe they run on discharging capcitors rather than a battery. Now you might argue that a capacitor is still a battery as it a method of storing power. But really a glow light is closer to a battery in that it is chemical energy rather than a separation of charge. So i think these dynamo type lights would actually be more in the spirit of your trip, they are light weight and put out as much lite as those elites
Sep 26, 2012 at 8:15 pm #1915989Everett,
I'm an IT guy as well (an SAP Consultant) and understand your need to "unplug" completely.
One thought for using the lightstick…They don't throw off a lot of light and they do it all around. Take a piece of foil along to make a reflector in case you need to use it to see at night. The reflector will do two things:
– Will concentrate the available light in the direction you want
– Will keep your eyes from looking at the lightstick directlyGood luck – I'd like to hear how your test trip goes. For the test trip pack a flashlight and keep it in your pocket…
Sep 26, 2012 at 8:17 pm #1915991The shaker lights use capacitors. Most crank lights use NiMh batteries.
Sep 26, 2012 at 9:23 pm #1916011http://sweepingthegarden.wordpress.com/2011/06/12/old-school-ultralight/
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The stars light my bread;
to follow the rhythm of things.
To make camp before dark,
to do as the world dictates-
a bed of leaves,
a depression kicked in cool earth
to fit the curve of the hip.
Sit, in the dark
let the eyes adjust.
Sit.
Let the sound of water blend with the sound of wind;
one, separate, and one again.
Even a simple candle
now blinding, unnecessary
to bring my bread and cheese
out of the dark.Sep 28, 2012 at 9:45 am #1916404I like the idea of not bringing anything that needs batteries.
But why not take the idea all the way and ditch the lightsticks too, you really don't need them.
You can set up camp at night just fine without any light if you know where you keep things in your pack and how to setup your tarp/tent.
Any trail too rugged to hike at night without a flashlight will also be too rugged at hike at night with a chem lightstick.
I like that you are working on making wilderness travel more simple, but it seems funny to take ONE flashlight outta your pack only to replace it with TWO lightsticks.
Go hiking on a full moon and don't bing any light.
oh and ditch the tp too
the backcountry bidet is where it is atSep 28, 2012 at 4:57 pm #1916512I could easily get by w/o my Steripen, I used MicroPur tabs for years prior; GPS- it's nice, but I'm comfortable w/ map & compass; digital camera would definitely be missed, but there have been fast trips where I didn't snap a single shot; light however….. I often hike after dark (especially as the days shorten) and you never know what emergency may arise that requires you to hike at night (this fire loooong fire season give rise to a few possible scenarios)- so one battery item isn't too bad :)
Sep 30, 2012 at 7:29 am #1916823Except for lacking a flashlight, the no-electronics system looks like that my Boy Scout troop practiced way back in the day. Survival of the fittest, communing with nature, all that stuff…
Sep 30, 2012 at 8:10 am #1916833Ha! It's funny that I am going the other way with the whole electronic thing after a long period of electric minimalism or flat out disuse.
When I was a teen and in college often I would only have a single small flashlight with no backup batteries, and sometimes no light or any electric stuff at all. Campfire light would be all I would need, and if it rained, then break out the light–and only for like 10 min to get ready for bed. Of course it helps to take precautions, like have your shelter sorted before sunset, and lay out stuff you will need at night.
About 4 years ago when I started to get back into backpacking as my main hobby I bought a wind-up LED flashlight. Then a few years ago I discovered UL backpacking and switched to a tiny 30g LED flashlight, which is what I usually take as my only light, though I do pack some extra batteries (only 10g, they are the disk kind). But then around the same time as I discovered UL I also got back into winter backpacking, and here in Sweden in the winter it is dark most of the time, sometimes the sun sets at like 4pm.
So just last month or so I decided for the upcoming winter to get a nice and light headlamp. Then of course other things in life forced my hand with a few other electronic items like cell phone and camera. I often will leave my camera at home, but I write a blog, so sometimes it comes with. The cell phone I never, ever took with me… until I had kids. Now it comes with me always and fully charged to make sure my family is doing well and to talk to my kids if they miss me, wish them goodnight, etc. It's only 65g at least. I could give a rat's behind about iPhones or the rest of those fancy new phones.
But I admire the spirit of the OP, I was there at one point, but life sure does change on you sometimes.
Oh, a tip I just remembered: take a small tea candle with you just in case. There have been several times that made things much easier in shelters, and if anything it sure is cozy :)
Oct 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm #1917183Why not bring a headlamp and try not using it, first?
Oct 1, 2012 at 6:21 pm #1917335Night time is not always that dark. Once your eyes get used to the darkness, its often amazingly well lit if there is any moonlight.
Using a light, can often be visually poorer overally than going without one if there is some moonlight. You can see close to you, but not the big picture farther out.
I only use a photon, 0.35 oz. And thats basically only to find something in the dark, or go to bathroom .
On the trail, darkness is for sleeping. Daylight, is for everything else.
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