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3 Season Bag plus Quilt for Winter Use?

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PostedSep 13, 2012 at 3:22 pm

Trying to create a sleep system for winter use in the Sierras. I'm planning on some snowshoe trips with my son (and maybe my wife too) in snow and was hoping to use existing 3 season, 20 degrees bags and then purchase a quilt to use inside of them, or over the top, thus turning them into winter bags. Something like the 1 season quilts that golite has on sale for $149 right now. Seems like a cheaper way to go than popping for 3 new winter bags. Similarly, the cumulative weight and bulk seems to be equivalent to a new four season down bag. I have Marmot Heliums right now which I have used previously in that area with my son. I was fine, but my son was a bit cold (I know my wife will be cold).

Sound like a reasonable plan? Any downsides?

PostedSep 13, 2012 at 3:29 pm

Many will rightly say that carrying two fabric carcasses will automatically weigh more than carrying one fabric carcass with sufficient insulation for the temps.

However, if your individual circumstances favor carrying a modular system such as you describe, it can work out. Sometimes other factors like versatility can outweigh chasing the very lightest weight.

Try it, and see how it works out for you.

Mark Verber BPL Member
PostedSep 13, 2012 at 3:31 pm

Combining bag + quilt can work. I have done both a quilt over and a quilt inside the sleeping bag. Our experience was that the quilt inside the bag (provided there is room for it) was warmer than the quilt over the sleeping bag. Of course, a winter bag/ quilt will be lighter.

–Mark

PostedSep 14, 2012 at 10:16 pm

I would say go for it! That way you have a summer quilt, fall bag and winter combo.

Yes, it might not be the lightest option, but it's cheaper and more versatile.

What about clothing? I already owned a 15F bag when i moved to Minnesota and have used it happily without a shelter below 0F simply by wearing nice warm clothes, which I wanted to have anyway for the non sleeping part of camp time or rest breaks.

I would suggest getting your wife a really warm down jacket, your son a medium warmth one and yourself a light one, that way, you will all be comfortable in the same sleeping bag, as well as in the evening/morning.

Don't forget serious down slippers for your wife, unless you like icy feet on your legs at night!

PostedSep 16, 2012 at 6:35 am

Absolutely,

While the weight may be worse than carrying a single bag for the rating expected it is a way to use two items that you will use often for the rare times you need the extreme rating. (If you get heavy into winter hiking you will end up with a single bag most likely though.)

The winter before last my son wanted to try snow camping so I put him in his regular 20 F bag and put my Nunatak Arc Alpinist over it. It worked great.

Someday I am going to try my Arc Expedition over my Alpinist to see if I can take that to -20 F or so.

Elliott Wolin BPL Member
PostedSep 16, 2012 at 1:21 pm

Our two-person three-season quilt with a summer quilt on top worked fine down to 15 degF.

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