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PostedAug 7, 2012 at 7:27 am

I'm heading into the Wind Rivers next week, and the rangers have restricted all wood fires, even enclosed wood stoves. I was planning on using a Backcountry Boiler to heat water for 3 people.

Now, I'm looking at other options. For five nights, I'm looking at a pound of alcohol, at least. The wood burner had seemed so simple and light, and I'm still in denial over the prohibition.

The solution I'm looking at is to have each person carry his own fuel for the trip, and share the stove and pot. (I have a larger pot and alcohol stove for this purpose)

Is this the lightest/simplest set-up? I've never used or researched traditional butane stoves. Would that be easier/lighter for this trip?

Paul Wagner BPL Member
PostedAug 7, 2012 at 8:12 am

Easier? Probably. You just turn on the gas and light the stove.

We use less than a can of fuel for a week for the two of us…but we don't burn a lot of fuel—just a liter of water for breakfast, and another for dinner.

MSR Pocket Rocket, small pot…it's pretty darn light and easy.

jscott Blocked
PostedAug 7, 2012 at 8:39 am

A four ounce fuel canister coupled with a pocket rocket, small ti pot and an excellent windscreen has consistently bought me six days(!)of cooking with fuel left over. The windscreen is key. I boil-only for one person, once for breakfast and again for dinner. These numbers assume that I don't cook breakfast on the first day and don't cook dinner on the last. Pretty darn sweet if you ask me.

PostedAug 7, 2012 at 8:49 am

Pocket rocket, micro rocket (new), or something similar. I can't speak for the amount of fuel you will need, but a good windscreen will help with fuel efficiency. Sounds like you have all the other essentials, so something small like a pocket rocket and fuel canisters is only a small added cost. The fire restriction is a real bummer. It's always my preferred method of cooking.

Dena Kelley BPL Member
PostedAug 7, 2012 at 10:36 am

On a recent trip here in Alaska I took a 3.5oz canister (four season fuel, if it matters) and the MSR Pocket Rocket and heated about 5 liters of water over the course of two days for cooking and water sterilization. I would estimate the canister is still half full. The temps were about 50 degrees, with wind, and I didn't have an effective wind screen (I used a big rock and my body), so I wasn't being as efficient as I could have been.

I've also read articles that have expressed that when you get into longer trips the white gas stoves start to come into their element due to their higher efficiency. I know I love my old Dragonfly and would probably consider it as the stove carried for a 5 day or more trip with multiple people, esp. if I could split up the weight where one person carried the fuel, one carried the stove, and one carried the cook-set.

PostedAug 7, 2012 at 12:02 pm

Thanks, guys. It sounds like an 8oz can (i.e., the can plus the fuel) may be the simplest solution here, plus a 3-4 oz burner. I think that still beats 16-20 oz of alcohol.

PostedAug 7, 2012 at 12:21 pm

The lightest stove/fuel combo I've found is my Caldera Cone Sidewinder W/ ESBIT fuel in teh Gram Cracker tab holder that comes with the stove. 2 1/2 ESBIT tabs per day.

Next lightest is the butane fuel/light burner combo.

PostedAug 7, 2012 at 12:42 pm

Now, there's an idea: do you think the esbit would work with the backcountry boiler?

I haven't had the best luck with the esbit in real world conditions, but the boiler is a more efficient burner than the typical stove.

Also, would the esbit gum up the boiler.

James Marco BPL Member
PostedAug 7, 2012 at 12:54 pm

David, I personnaly don't care for the smell and mess that it makes. Usually, if there is a fire ban, alcohol, esbit, and wood are all excluded from your choices.

Canisters are equivalent in weight with Alcohol within a 4oz depending on whether you can stretch your canister. Only the distribution of the weights is different. More at the start with alcohol, less comming out.

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