silk liner or fleece?!

My guess is to go with silk. I am thinking it would have less area space for dirt to cling to as opposed to the fuzzy side of fleece. Since your first qualifier is "keep my bag clean" this seems to be the winner.

hmm…not too fussed on the bag being clean…

just first thing i wrote
in order it would have to be

-warmth
-comfort
-keeping sleepingbag clean

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I would not add a liner. If you are cold wear your insulating jacket and rain gear to bed or carry a warmer bag. If you want to add something add a pair of clean base layers for camp use. About the same weight as a liner and can be worn around camp before you sleep or on cold mornings.

A liner is essentially dead weight, how much does the one you are looking at weigh?

I generally have a pair of base layer bottoms in my pack for cool mornings so if you already have that then they would stay relatively clean. So all you would need to add is a 4 oz top and you would have clean sleep clothes if that is important to you. If you aren't already carrying bottoms then you are looking at adding around 10oz for the base layer top and bottom which is probably comparable to the liner but at least the base layer is multi use.

warmth
-comfort
-keeping sleepingbag clean

My silk liner weighs 4.3 oz. I expect a fleece liner would weigh significantly more but it would be warmer. I'm not sure how much warmth the silk liner really adds, but it will help keep your bag cleaner and it's easier to wash after your trip.

I use a quilt. I put my sleeping pad inside the liner, so it acts more like a sheet than a liner. I sleep better that way and I am perfectly willing to add ounces for good sleep.

It depends on what you want. The silk liner is not going to be a warm as the fleece. That's like apples and oranges.

Check out the Sea to Summit series. Below is a list in order of weigh to warmth.

Silk, cool max, reactor, reactor extreme.

I personally use a liner either in conjunction with my bag or by itself. I have all the liners listed. I can use any one of the liners above by themselves for different outings during the summer.

The liner is worth the extra weight for the simple fact that it is going to save your bag. It is easier to wash and allows much better adjustability for varied conditions.

This seems like it should be obvious but are the majority of liners simply a tube that is sewn up on one end? What i mean is, do you just pull them up like you would a sleeping bag with no zipper? If so, it makes it seem like they would make it difficult to get in and out. I have a synthetic quilt that is too narrow since I am a side sleeper and thought that this might help.

well its small enough to be able to be rolled up with my sleeping bag
it weighs 130grams
wheras the fleece one will have to be rolled and takes up as much room as a mat pretty much

i dont know…i just want one that will be small enough to take barely any room (can go in my compressed bad with sleeping bag)
but will add warmth/comfort

All of the Sea to Summit liners except for the silk one are as big around as a nalgene bottle and half the height. The silk one is the size of a wallet. However to reduce the size of your pack you are better off not using stuff sacks. Fold everything it packs smaller. Just use a pack liner.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately – to the point where it's done my head in.

I decided Silk would be better for me as my Quilt is plenty warm enough, and the silk would be lighter and more compact than fleece. If I needed the extra warmth of fleece over silk, I could simply wear my insulation layer as well.

But then I decided a liner isn't multi-use so I've been scouring the net for the lightest possible base layer to wear – will keep the bag clean, add some warmth and I like something relatively clean and dry to wear in camp under my windgear at the end of a long day.

But THEN, lol, I can't find anything that for my size (top and bottom) will come in anywhere near the 130 odd gms of a silk liner. My current thermals are more than that each…

Just thought I'd share my pain.

I recommend a slik liner, because:

It will block most drafts (very important!)
It will help keep your bag/quilt/mat clean
It is light

A fleece liner is warmer, but fleece is far heavier than down. You would be better off adding down to your quilt than using fleece.

Cheers

thanks heaps guys
i guess i will go for silk since my pack is starting to gain weight from my new items

plus i have extra poly and merino wool thermals

cant go wrong i guess