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Josh Thomas BPL Member
PostedMay 30, 2012 at 5:57 pm

Caught between the incredible (for a double wall) low weight of the Notch and the extra space and added stability of the Stratospire 1, I ordered both, hoping to do a side-by-side comparison to choose. And though I hesitated to post any of my findings since so much has been written about these two tents, I was assured by another BPLer there was no such thing as overkill (I'm looking at you Nigel!).

First, the Notch. Set-up is a breeze, really easy to get a super taut pitch, and with the additional guy attachments (added by Henry for no additional charge), I think the Notch could take a good wallop of weather. Another positive is the vents in the head and foot of the ten. Having to open them from the outside isn't ideal, but I'm not sure what you'd do to fix that otherwise. The only – and I mean only – negative about the Notch is that the inner is a pretty tight squeeze. I haven't quite made the jump to bivys and small spaces yet. Of course, this could be remedied by opening the inner, or going without, but I live in the Southeast, where pests swarm most of the year and a zipper is a hiker's best friend. As a test, I put my Synmat UL7 with a WM Ultralite in the Notch to see how cramped I'd be if I was using it during the colder months. Unfortunately, with that sleep system, the bag actually touches the netting on the sides of the inner. Not really a huge deal, but it just felt a little claustrophobic. After lying there for a bit, I think it would work in a pinch, but I'm not sure I'd want to be in there for an extended period of time; waiting out a storm or some such situation.

Next up was the SS1. While setup wasn't as quick as the Notch, it was still an easy go. When all the stakes are in and the tent's completely guyed out, this thing is solid as a rock. The SS1 is palatial for one, and both vestibules are generous. When I tested my pad and bag, there was still room on each side for any junk I may have brought in with me. The one thing I noticed – and maybe I'll figure this out with more practice – but I never could get a taut pitch on this one. There always seemed to be a couple panels that were a little flappy. And yet, at the bottom of the zipper, it seemed like the tension was almost too much. I'm chalking it up to user error, honestly. The only other thing about the SS1 is that takes up a bit of space. If ground space was at a premium, I might be out of luck. I'm guessing I could probably configure it to work, though.

I wasn't able to actually set the tents up side-by-side because I only have one set of trekking poles. [Therefore, my neighbors got to see me set up and take down the tents three or four times each.]

But after giving them a look, my decision is … the SS1. But, Lord almighty, is that Notch a great tent. And for time when I'm using a less robust bag (like an old model MB SS#3), there may actually be more room on the sides. The only question now is … can I actually afford to keep both? I've got my first kid on the way in three months. Can I justify 'em both?!

D@mn you Henry Shires! I'll post a few pics later. [edited for spelling]

Stephen M BPL Member
PostedMay 30, 2012 at 6:21 pm

Hi Josh,

I have the SS1 and it is a great tent, I contemplated getting the Notch but for the extra bit of weight the extra space of the Ss1 is well worth it.
I plan to use the fly sheet by itself during the winter.

Keep the Ss1 mate :-)

PostedMay 30, 2012 at 6:42 pm

Josh
Because I am still young and nimble I can open/close the vents on the Notch. as it is.
The way to do it if otherwise is to unclip the top of inner , then anyone that fits inside the Notch will be able to.
( BTW, hold the D ring with one hand and twist the mitten hook out with the other, no need to press that tongue in)

with the SS1 the set up is indeed trickier but try my way of doing it , that may work for you too.
An important aspect is to have the correct pole height and to keep those poles straight. Note that they sit a few inches away from the inner, unlike with the Notch.
SS2″>SS2 II video
Franco

PostedMay 30, 2012 at 7:15 pm

Josh thanks for bringing me back to BPL via email to talk more about Notch :)

We're in different contexts. I would never get the all-mesh inner as its too cold/breezy and its fairly dry where I live so if its hot I'd pitch inner-only. Here it tends to combine rain with colder and wind so I'd did not forsee a mesh-inner with a fly combo fitting in my planned locations. You're in different region has warmer rain so different context.

I would agree that touching the side of the mesh with the Notch with your sleeping bag would be a concern in rain due to the high fly, you will get some splashes from the side and that can be pulled through the mesh by touching it, so you're right to be concerned with that issue for your context. I would be extremely surprised if the mesh had condensation problems. Is that a real issue?

I did look at SS1, agree its roomier for not much more weight but the lack of partially-solid inner just blocked it for me.

I do see myself ending up with a two-shelter eventual solution. The SS1 is too similar though to the Notch to be not differentiated enough for me, I was thinking Notch + Scarp, Scarp has a better snow-loading story with the crossing poles and solid roof on the solid inner option, and you know we both tried the Scarp….

SS1 not pitching taught, experiment with trying either LESS tension in the 2nd peg, or try with MORE tension on the 2nd peg. The 2nd peg if I recall the SS1 pitching video was the vestibule. It is tempting to pitch it tight, but from my Notch experience where 2nd peg is on the end, if you make it too tight you can never get a taught pitch. So try that 2nd peg a little further in before plugging in other pegs and the tensioning. Just an idea with nil SS1 experience on my part.

If I were you…. return the Notch, its too similar to the SS1 you prefer to have both SS1 and Notch. Also baby on the way… so when will you get the time? I did 30 nights in a tent in the 3 months before my first baby and then quite a bit less afterwards, its beginning to pick up more in recent years now my baby is 6'4". Still in those early years I'd be pushing a well-covered pram in some horrendous weather to keep myself sane.

Josh Thomas BPL Member
PostedMay 30, 2012 at 7:58 pm

Franco, I noticed you pitched a pitchLoc corner first on your SS2, rather than the two loops at the bottom of the vestibule, then placed a pole, then the other pole, then the two vestibule loops, then the final pitchLoc corner as directed on the Tarptent directions and site. I don't guess it makes much difference as to the order … or does it? (Nevermind, just saw your quote about "your way") Thanks!

I also think I needed to boost the poles a bit. It may be a few days before I get another attempt to set up. We've got some nasty weather coming through our area the next couple days. No need in testing the new tent with a round of hail.

Nigel, I agree that the Notch and SS1 are a little too similar to keep them both. I did see on TT's website that the partial solid inner is now available for the SS1. For now, I'll keep the all mesh, but may look at grabbing a PS if I see it's needed for blow-in. As to my hiking life with the little one arriving, my wife is very gracious. But I don't expect to get out as much as usual!

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