May 24, 2012 at 8:55 am #1290281
Ross BleakneyBPL Member
OK, I just lost my old little camera. So now, I'm in the market for something new. Here are some things I want out of the camera:
1) Lightweight. I would like to get the most camera for the weight I can get.
2) Wide Angle. My old camera started at 35mm (eq.) and it frustrated me. Now I want one that can capture more without resorting to stitching pictures together.
3) Image Quality. I sure wish the point and shoot folks put more effort into sensor quality than quantity. I really don't want more pixels if they are fuzzy. I would much rather have a sharper image than more pixels. I rarely print anything, and every image I see is bigger than every monitor out there.
4) More control on imaging would be nice, but it isn't a deal breaker. I've gotten used to the limited amount of control that I had until Saturday. With my old camera, I had a few modes I used ("Snow", "Night" and Regular) as well as the different focus types (Infinity, Auto, Macro). Fairly primitive, but I didn't mind too much. I'm not sure if I would really take advantage of a camera with SLR capability, even if someone crammed it into a small package.
A few other things worth mentioning. I take most pictures at bright light or with a tripod. Occasionally I will do a low light hand held picture, but that is usually in the winter. I may get a waterproof camera for that purpose (I wouldn't mind owning two cameras).
So far, I've looked at a bunch of little Cannons:
Canon ELPH 110 4.2 oz (120 g)
Canon ELPH 320 4.6 oz (130 g)
Canon ELPH 500 5.8 oz (165 g)
Canon PowerShot S100 6.1 oz (173 g)
So, this leads to a few questions: Are there differences in image quality for the three Elphs, or is it just a matter of features? The 500 seems to have less zoom, but a bigger price tag, so I would assume so, but I'm not so sure about the 110.
Is the image quality of the S100 significantly better than the Elphs? Again, I would assume so, in which case it might be a good sweet spot.
What other cameras should I be looking at (both for the super-light as well as the lightweight sweet spot)?
Thanks.May 24, 2012 at 9:11 am #1880726
@areichowLocale: Northern Minnesota
Image quality will be quite a bit better on the Canon S100. Probably other factors, but it has a larger image sensor, which is probably the primary consideration.
I'm far from a pro, but I also recently went looking for a new camera. I've been very pleased with the Canon digital cameras we've had for the last 10 years, so that's where I started looking. This time around I wanted to get a compact/ultracompact camera with manual controls, which narrows the options quite a bit. In the end, I went with the Nikon P300.
If cost wasn't an issue, I'd go with the Canon S100. The Nikon P300 competes very well against the S100 but lacks a few features that might be nice- manual focus (love the S100's control ring) and support for RAW. If you're on a budget but want a camera with manual control, I'd recommend the Nikon P300 (or the slightly newer P310) without hesitation.
S100 and P300 both have an 24 mm ultra wide angle lens, which is great. Neither have much zoom, which isn't much of a consideration for me. I've rarely used the 3-5x zoom on the cameras I've had. P300 has a slightly larger max aperture at f/1.8 vs the S100's f/2.0. Not a huge deal, but nice to have for my copious indoor photos of the kids. :)
Nikon P300 6.5 ozMay 24, 2012 at 9:48 am #1880746
Yuri RBPL Member
Wait for Olympus Tough TG-1 iHS. Well spec-ed, wide angle, bright/fast lens, water/shock/freeze/dirt proof.May 24, 2012 at 5:49 pm #1880894
@ken_bennettLocale: southeastern usa
Most of my small cameras are Panasonic, for no good reason other than they had decent features and prices. My hiking camera is a ZS1, which has a fairly wide angle lens (equivalent to a 25-300mm lens), good image stabilization, and takes mostly decent photos for a point and shoot. I think they're up to the ZS10 by now, but older models are still available.
My standard advice for anyone looking for a hiking camera is to get something with a decent wide angle lens and optical image stabilization. Waterproof is a nice feature, but reduces the number of choices. (My waterproofing system involves a ziploc sandwich bag.) Other than that, buy on features and price — image quality is going to be similar for almost every point and shoot camera. Price is related to features and age more than image quality.
The S100 allows more control, shoots raw files, has a decent lens, and will shoot nice photos, but it's still a tiny sensor and will have trouble at higher ISO values. But for your purposes it should make good photos and the manual control is a nice bonus. I love the ring around the lens — set it as your zoom ring.May 24, 2012 at 6:10 pm #1880900
Herbert SitzBPL Member
@hesLocale: Pacific NW
It pays to read some reviews at sites like imagingresource.com, dpreview.com, even user ratings at Amazon. Here's page with listing of popular pocket cams with links to reviews and blurbs on each: http://www.imaging-resource.com/WB/WB.HTM?view=dp_compact
I just picked up a Canon Powershot 300HS, which is a recently superseded model. 300HS is 4.9oz, 12 megapixel cam, 24mm wide angle with 5x zoom, good quality 1080P video. The superseding model goes up to 16megapixels and has only 28mm wide angle, both steps backward in IMO. You can find new 300HS's at discounted prices (around $135?) but I picked up a like-new one off eBay for $99.May 24, 2012 at 6:19 pm #1880905
I carry a Lumix LX5, which is pretty light (271g) and has a useful 24-90mm equivalent zoom range Leica branded lens and a larger than usual sensor for a compact. It has full manual control and shoots raw. My setup is that and a Gorillapod SLR + Ballhead and a set of ND grad filters (there is an adapter for the LX5).
It makes a pretty darn capable lightweight kit. I've printed up to A3 from it with very satisfactory results.May 24, 2012 at 6:32 pm #1880911
Art TyszkaBPL Member
I'm a big Canon fan and shoot mostly with my T1i and Tamron 18-270. I also like to make videos via iMovie, and the SLR is a lot to pack in when trying to lighten everything else – so when I saw the Nikon AW100, I had to try it. I'm very impressed with the image quality of the stills and full HD video. The water/freeze/shock proof part is also what I decided was a must for true outdoor use.
You say you mostly shoot in full light, but I always like to have the flexibility of shooting in low-light and the AW100 does a nice job there. Whatever you get, I think weather-proof is a must have for backpacking so you don't have to worry about it, unless you're serious about shooting, then a SLR is hard to beat, though some of the new hybrids come close.May 24, 2012 at 6:48 pm #1880918
Miguel ArboledaBPL Member
@butukiLocale: Kanto Plain, Japan
+1 on the Olympus Tough TG-1 iHS. I suspect that it is going to be one of the most popular cameras for the UL crowd. The specs are fantastic.May 24, 2012 at 6:59 pm #1880924
Mark VerberBPL Member
@verberLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
+1 on the Canon S100. I have it's grandfather, the S90. Thing it has the best combination of features, control, size, and image quality. I have tried several of the waterproof pocket camera, and have never been happy with image quality. That said, I bring a camera that is larger than the S100 if a trip has an emphasis in images over the hiking… for me, that means a Fuji X-Pro1.
–MarkMay 24, 2012 at 6:59 pm #1880925
Eric BlumensaadtBPL Member
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
Yep Miguel, that looks like my next camera. Been looking for years and THIS one looks like a good backpacking camera that will not be soon "outdated".May 25, 2012 at 7:41 am #1881044
adam blantonBPL Member
@adamallstarLocale: Central Texas
+1 on this guy, if you're looking for tiny this is the way to go. Photo quality is excellentMay 25, 2012 at 6:04 pm #1881236
@fderooscomcast-netLocale: Mid Atlantic
+1, great little camera that is a significant improvement from Elphs (in my opinion). my go to backpacking camera.May 25, 2012 at 6:21 pm #1881243
a camera tha can withstand being dropped? I use a Canon SD1100 IS but I think that my next camera with have waterproof/shockproof (or resistance) as a consideration. Expecially for hiking. Just a thought.
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